muerteapablo

OK, quick background:
Want to major in Philosophy/Neurobio (not completely sure which), and be pre-med. A transfer student to both schools from Cornell.
Annnnnnnnnnd.... go.

Casey2889

im biased, but id say columbia for sure. the academics are better at columbia and you'll also get a more well rounded liberal arts education, which for someone who isn't quite sure about their major, is probably a good thing.

social life at penn is a lot like cornell though, if that is a factor. much less of that traditional school spirit at columbia, no one really goes to football/basketball games.

columbia is an intellectual's school and is fairly political. penn is, well, different...penn, and not just wharton, has a very career oriented undergraduate population that is significantly more apolitical, and nearly twice as large as that of columbia.

if prestiege is a factor, i'd also say that columbia is a bit more prestigious than penn as well...in USNWR, penn's financial resources and alumni giving are #7 and its faculty resources are #1, (columbia is #16 in both those categories) so its ranked a bit higher overall (#7 vs. #9), but columbia's peer assesment, selectivity rank, and SAT range are all higher.

but thats all BS. just choose what feels right for you. have you visited?

collegegrad1

haha "faculty resources"...i'd be curious as to how those are defined exactly.

neuroscience is a big field at columbia. recent nobel winners include Eric Kandel and Richard Axel. i know columbia is investing a lot of resources into the field for the upcoming years. i'm sure neuro receives significant focus at penn, too, however.

if you're in CC, the core will give you a pretty heavy dose of philosophy, so you might not need to do a formal concentration in that area. that might be nice for you, since you already seem to be juggling a neuro major and pre-med.

other than that, as casey said, choose based on environment and what feels right.

collegegrad1

also...people do go to the basketball games at columbia (less so football, since the stadium's far away). they just don't care enough to get down if the team loses.

Venkat89

At Penn you can combine philosophy and neuroscience:
Institute for Research in Cognitive Science

muerteapablo

Ummm that's the sweetest thing that I have ever seen.

eatsalot

omg venkat89 THAT PROGRAM IS AMAZING..

muerteapablo

I was waitlisted, and I'm trying to figure out if I want to stay on the waitlist.

nyctransfer12

I'm in the same situation!

I was admitted to Columbia and Penn, too. I visited Columbia on Tuesday and Penn yesterday. (Haha I may go back to Columbia again, today, as I'm from NYC.)

In any case, I'm double majoring in Econ and Spanish. I know both schools have excellent Econ programs and everything.

Questions: Do Penn people get off campus a lot? Is the Greek Life there completely dominant of the social scene?

What do I do?!?! haha thanks for your help in advance

muerteapablo

Go to Penn - great spanish department, you can take classes at wharton in terms of econ, and they are very good with double majoring/ getting a dual degree.

Casey2889

aka "go to penn and give me your spot at columbia"

haha stealth move there muerteapablo, i respect that.

muerteapablo

You have no idea; I already convinced another kid to go to Penn instead of Columbia.
Although in nyc's case, it actually does make sense for her to go to Penn.

Actually, now I'm kinda smitten with the place myself, but I think that's only because I keep imagining myself there.

lvilleslacker

that program looks horrible. it's a bunch of random classes with cy consistency in terms of required classes that they call an "interdisciplinary" major. there aren't even any classes specifically designed for it. all you're getting is like two minors in their listed fields of "biology, computer science, linguistics, mathematics, neuroscience, philosophy and psychology."

collegegrad1

neuroscience is nowhere near the point of being able to definitively answer the great philosophical questions. Neuroscience and philosophy are effectively separate disciplines at this point in time, and therefore I would argue that, if a student is to give each field the attention it deserves, the two subjects are best studied separately.

aworldapart

Philosophy studies the metaphysical, neuroscience studies the physical. They are in completely different spheres of existence and there is absolutely know correlation between the two yet.