What's so bad about including the median grade? Woukdn't it give more context of a student's grade? Didn't your high school include school's profile when you were applying to colleges? My kid's school profile included distribution of grades and scores for AP classes.
If a student got a B+ in Real Analysis and the median grade was B- then B+ was a good grade. Wouldn't you want grad school or employer to know that? Of course if you got B+ and the median grade was A, that tells a story too.
"Employers would generally want to see GPA north of 3.75 for AEM students. On the other hand, CoE students with 3.0 is still respectable. "
This is probably true. However, this also revealed that CoE grading can be adjusted. D's GPA is above 3.5 but not like 3.9+.
In addition, from what I heard on these forums higher level classes grading are not as tough. Those who gone through freshman/sophomore level classes gone through tougher grading. Those who waived lower level classes seem to have better experiences. Maybe this is the area that should be looked into, making the first year experience positive is important, higher level classes are professional areas that can be tougher in grading, and by that time students has been on campus for a year or two and would be gradually adapt to work harder than they were in high school.
Also, I hope this is not true but haven’t found supporting evidence to refute it yet:
"A cursory review of the employment practices at any large financial sector company, law school or graduate program, reveals that they do not take a college's grading practice into account. "
The average employer looks at a resume for no more than like 15-20 seconds. Therefore they likely aren't going to weigh too heavily how rigorous a school might be. I do think if Cornell inflated its grades, students would have an easier time finding jobs. That doesn't mean I think Cornell should do it. Cornell is plenty tough and I think it makes its students better for. I think the stresses and anxiety associated with tough weeks of exams actually are good for a person and help them to grow. The goal of a quality education shouldn't be to make you happy all the time. It should upon reflection, make you think the effort was worth it and something valuable was gained.
Cornell may not be good if you are going on to a professional school because of their grading policies and the low admit data from the wall street journal chart, but it is still an excellent school, even if the grading is very deflated compared to other ivy league colleges. There are many, many successful people who went to cornell and the Sun said today that contributions are up.
Unlike some schools Cornell gives 4.3 GPA points for an A+. Therefore it's possible to regain a 4.0 if you lose it, by doing extremely well later on. However, I don't know if you're supposed to convert these back to 4.0 when calculating your GPA. I'm guessing you don't since that would be tedious.
Forget about grading technicalities, with the information in this thread , is there anyone who could seriously consider cornell for preprofessional? Not me. Definitely a great, maybe one of the best all around Universities that we have, but sucky stats for undergrads who want to go to professional school. Cornell should try and improve the data, but I don't know how they can do it without big changes . . . .
Location: Southern California -> Cornell '16! Go Big Red!
I would have to concur with that.
I am officially in hell. Suddenly, being back in high school actually sounds much, much more preferable to where I am now. I am completely miserable here. I don't know what else could go wrong. Lowest point in my happiness levels in at least six months.
I was going to put $1,500 on Obama on Intrade, but now I'm not going to do that because he will probably lose if I do that. Will be totally consistent with the rest of my luck right now.
I hate to sympathy bait, but seriously. What did I do to deserve this? I worked hard in high school just to earn the right to be miserable in college. I need to find some grade inflated party school where everyone is nice to one another. Hell, even Community College sounds like an upgrade at this point
back in high school actually sounds much, much more preferable to where I am now. I am completely miserable here. I don't know what else could go wrong. Lowest point in my happiness levels in at least six months.
hmm, not sure if you're trolling or not. 10 days ago...
Cornell is actually is an amazing place and I'm extremely happy here relative to high school.