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Old 11-06-2012, 11:25 AM   #61
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Does Cornell take into consideration of family matters that have affected academic performance in the past? How important are teacher rec letters? I've heard that they don't even look at some essays.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:24 PM   #62
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My GPA is bad and ranking is bad also. But I have like counselor's letter that excuses my ranking as I transferred a lot as international student. are my GPA and ranking going to be a problem in this case?
By "bad", if you mean top 10-15% of your class, you are a competitive applicant. By "bad" if you mean you are bottom 50-60% of your class, your chances are next to none, unless you are a recruited athlete.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:27 PM   #63
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Does Cornell take into consideration of family matters that have affected academic performance in the past? How important are teacher rec letters? I've heard that they don't even look at some essays.
Cornell takes everything into account. They do read all essays. Teacher rec's are pretty important, although not as important as your transcript or SAT score. Not sure if Cornell will give much of leeway to someone who has poor grades due to family matters. They may forgive a couple of C's on your transcript, but if you got D's and F's, that's a different story.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:11 PM   #64
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Does Cornell take AP credits?
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:58 PM   #65
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Hi NYULawyer, thanks for doing this.

I'm currently a freshmen enrolled in Electrical and Computer Engineering major, and I'm seriously getting my ass kicked by these core engineering classes. Sure, I'm getting a lot out of it, but I doubt I'll be able to manage a single A this quarter and I might be bordering on a C as well :/ My plan was to minor in the Dyson Business Minor for Engineers, load myself up with a bunch of finance internships and end up applying for some IB jobs upon graduation. I figured a STEM background couldn't exactly hurt when it came to applying for financial jobs, but judging by the state of things I seriously doubt I'll end up getting that 3.7+ GPA. Do you think that my GPA can take this fall if I hope to end up getting a job in financial services? Or do you think it's worth salvaging my GPA and switching out of ECE (my real interest) into another field?

Closely tied with my predicament -- how much impact does a C have on your transcript? Forgive me for my apparent fixation on GPA. I just really just want to be competitive in that IB candidate pool :/
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:35 PM   #66
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Does Cornell take AP credits?
Yes, fortunately.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:49 PM   #67
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I'm currently a freshmen enrolled in Electrical and Computer Engineering major, and I'm seriously getting my ass kicked by these core engineering classes. Sure, I'm getting a lot out of it, but I doubt I'll be able to manage a single A this quarter and I might be bordering on a C as well :/ My plan was to minor in the Dyson Business Minor for Engineers, load myself up with a bunch of finance internships and end up applying for some IB jobs upon graduation. I figured a STEM background couldn't exactly hurt when it came to applying for financial jobs, but judging by the state of things I seriously doubt I'll end up getting that 3.7+ GPA. Do you think that my GPA can take this fall if I hope to end up getting a job in financial services? Or do you think it's worth salvaging my GPA and switching out of ECE (my real interest) into another field?
Electrical & Computer Engineering majors are both brutally hard majors. However, these majors also give strong employment options to students. (provided that you manage to graduate with a decent GPA)

If your true goal is to enter I-banking, you should be concerned with getting a high GPA. Period. I-banking firms won't likely to give you slot for an interview with a 3.2 GPA in electrical engineering, over those dozens of AEM/CAS/PAM/Hotel kids with 3.7-3.8 GPA's, even if you may have worked much harder.

The reason for that is, I-banking firms don't really care about your major. Most I-banking analysts don't use any more of quant/math skills beyond basic high school algebra. Most of what analysts do is make PowerPoint slides for pitching to clients, run "models" on excel spreadsheet, do tons of data entry, and other grunt work. Hence, these firms don't care if you know how to solve differential equations or not. They just want to hire well-rounded, decently intelligent, well-pedigreed students with top notch GPA and internships who are capable of handling 90-100 working hours per week without screwing things up.

That being said, staying in a hard engineering curriculum does get you an edge outside of IB jobs, such as certain quant-focused hedge funds, prop trading shops, or research sides of finance. Or, in case you strike out at IB jobs, it gives you the fallback option of attaining engineering-related jobs. But just for vanilla IB or Consulting analyst position, the most important factors are top GPA + strong relevant internships in landing interviews. After you get the interview, what matters the most is your ability to seal the deal.

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Closely tied with my predicament -- how much impact does a C have on your transcript? Forgive me for my apparent fixation on GPA. I just really just want to be competitive in that IB candidate pool :/
I understand you are stressed, and rightfully so. You are majoring in one of the most difficult courses at Cornell. A C does really kill your GPA. One or two, and rest are high B's or A's, then you are fine in the long term. But, in engineering, that scenario won't likely to happen that easily.

You've got some things to think about. Ask yourself exactly what type of career you are interested in, and if the answer is I-banking by a land-slide, you should consider switching your major to something 'easier'.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:57 PM   #68
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Does Cornell have a limit on the number of AP credits it takes?
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:15 PM   #69
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http://www.engineering.cornell.edu/a...redentials.pdf
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:02 PM   #70
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Okay. Thanks!
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:27 PM   #71
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NYULawyer has provided lots of helpful, first-hand information about Cornell.

However I feel it necessary to address this statement he made:
"Con: -Lack of legit sports teams (sorry, Cornell sports teams are a joke)"

While some regard athletics among the Ivy League schools as less than competitive, Cornell has regularly succeeded in a number of athletics at the national level.

To name a few…………….

-Cornell Wrestling has for years been regarded as one of the best collegiate programs in the nation, currently ranked #7, and often in top 3 -5 in the nation, producing multiple National Champions.

This is from the NCAA’s current Front Page:
CORNELL’S DAKE MUSCLES PAST PSU’s TAYLOR: In the headlining event of the NWCA All-Start Classic, Cornell senior Kyle Dake began his pursuit of a fourth consecutive national title with a tiebreaker victory against Penn State’s David Taylor.

- Cornell Men’s Hockey is currently ranked #4 in the nation.

- Cornell Women’s Ice Hockey is currently ranked #2 in the nation.

- Cornell Men’s Soccer (14-1) is currently ranked #14 in the nation.

Anyone who follows college athletics knows national rankings like these don't come easy and are hardly “a joke.”
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:55 AM   #72
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I am applying for Cornell and am using the Primary/Alternate college option.

For primary, I am applying for Dyson Undergraduate (applied economics and management) under the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences.

My alternate choice is the economics major under the College of Arts and Sciences

The Common App supplement asks that I write the essay for both schools. Since AEM and economics are relatively similar majors, can I just use the same essay (an essay about how I'm business oriented and would like to go to college to learn more about my passion for entrepreneurship) for both of the schools? Will this degrade my chances at both schools or will they treat the two separately? My essay is essentially interchangeable.

Thanks
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:02 AM   #73
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How important do you think are AP scores? I self reported them on the common app cause I thought it would appear suspicious if I didn't. But I didn't do well on the APs at all (two 3s and one 4). I did, however, get really high grades from those classes. Will this make admissions suspicious of my transcript altogether? Thanks!
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:00 AM   #74
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Hi again!

I was wondering if you could please talk about what corporate law is like - such as what you topics focus on/study and what workload is like I suppose. I really don't know much about this, so any details would be great - thanks once again!
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:38 PM   #75
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I am applying for Cornell and am using the Primary/Alternate college option.

For primary, I am applying for Dyson Undergraduate (applied economics and management) under the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences.

My alternate choice is the economics major under the College of Arts and Sciences

The Common App supplement asks that I write the essay for both schools. Since AEM and economics are relatively similar majors, can I just use the same essay (an essay about how I'm business oriented and would like to go to college to learn more about my passion for entrepreneurship) for both of the schools? Will this degrade my chances at both schools or will they treat the two separately? My essay is essentially interchangeable.
I don't think it matters. If you get rejected from your first choice school, I heard the secondary school doesn't bother to look at your application.
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