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iS CORNELL AS BAD AS EVERYONE'S BEEN saying

quiverfoxquiverfox Posts: 888Registered User Member
edited November 2012 in Cornell University
Everyone of my friends, counselor, teachers told me Cornell was the wrong place to be in(though they said I had a good chance getting admitted there).
They said and I want you guys to comment:
1)It was in the middle of no where.
2) Not fun, because of above.
3) Extreme chill in winters.
4)Drugs
5) easiest ivy.
6) place is filled with weirdos.

I don't think any of that is true. But, before applying there, I want to know if it is really worth it.
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Replies to: iS CORNELL AS BAD AS EVERYONE'S BEEN saying

  • NewberrytigerNewberrytiger Posts: 177Registered User Junior Member
    I have no idea, I'm not a student, but taking a look at the sticky thread "myth-busting" might be helpful!
  • collookercollooker Posts: 20Registered User New Member
    Saugus, care to weigh in?
  • masternikamasternika Posts: 23Registered User New Member
    Let me address each of those individually.
    1) It is not in the middle of nowhere. Even though it is not a massive city like NYC, it is quite nice. The campus is one of the most beautiful in the country, and the city has a lot of fun things to do (commons, concerts, mall), but Ithaca is mostly based around its natural aspects. It has a ton of dams, waterfalls, etc. And NYC is 5 hours away, with a campus bus going there, so if you ever wanna go out to the big city, it's pretty close.
    2) Addressed mostly above.
    3) Yeah it's cold in the winters, but it's not unbearable. I've lived in Ithaca for 7-8 years, and I love the winter. It's extremely beautiful. There is a lot of snow, so it really depends on what you prefer. I like the cold and the snow, but it's definitely not for everybody.
    4) Irrelevant; drugs are in every college. Cornell is big, so if you don't want to do drugs, nobody is forcing you. There are all types of people at Cornell, so not doing drugs will not make you a social outcast or anything.
    5) First of all, recent posts have led me to believe Brown is actually the worst Ivy. And second of all, who gives a ****? It's still an IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL. You are being a stupid prick for thinking it's a bad ivy. Are you coming to Cornell just for its prestige? If so, why not apply to Harvard, Yale, or Princeton? Cornell doesn't want your sorry ass. It actually infuriates me when people say 'Cornell is the easiest ivy'. If you do get in, I wish you the best of luck trying to pass and graduate.
    6) And just shut the **** up. Place filled with weirdos? There are regular human beings who go to Cornell, so just grow the **** up and be thankful you have the chance to even apply to a school as good as Cornell.
  • collookercollooker Posts: 20Registered User New Member
    Excellent and accurate post Masternika!
    Quiverfox... You really have to visit the campus to see for yourself.
    Cornell is a remarkable institution with amazing resources and a vibrant and spirited student body.
  • NYULawyerNYULawyer Posts: 281Registered User Junior Member
    Not sure where all this info came from. Cornell is not filled with weirdos. I met many alpha, outgoing, and extremely sociable people at Cornell.

    And being the 'easiest ivy' part. Nobody in real world gives a damn about where you went to college. Go out to a bar in nyc and drop that "I went to Harvard" line before a girl that's a 9 or 10, and come back to tell me how that goes. Outside of banking / consulting job placement, college prestige matters very little.
  • quiverfoxquiverfox Posts: 888Registered User Member
    I would love to apply to Cornell. I live far away, never had a chance to the united states. So seeing the campus, is only virtual. Well I guess friends were unhappy that got rejected there, that is probably why they hated the place.
    Thanks for the comments guys! Want to hear more from you guys , thanks!!
  • cormom15cormom15 Posts: 354Registered User Member
    Masternicka's post was right on the money. I'll add just a little...

    Your list of negatives about Cornell, while completely unfounded and untrue, can be found at many colleges.

    While Cornell is in a non-urban setting, it is absolutely beautiful landscape wise and architecturally. Cornell offers many interesting and varied activities/events for students all year long so it's never boring. And Ithaca was voted "number one college town."

    Last winter it hardly even snowed and students were disappointed that they did not get to experience one of those infamous winters.

    Drugs and alcohol are part of every college - remember it's the "cool" kids, not the weirdos that often are partaking in these.

    Easiest ivy? You haven't' even gotten in yet! Why don't you reserve judgement until then. Better yet, wait a few semesters after you are there to comment.

    Calling students at Cornell "weirdos" suggests that you are into labels. Sure, there are "individuals" but if you just want to be like everyone else, then go to a place where there is no diversity. The best part of Cornell is that it is large enough that it is easy to "fit in."
  • T26E4T26E4 Posts: 16,591Registered User Senior Member
    **LIKE** to masternika's post. I'm an HYP alum and it always boggles me when outsiders (non-Ivy people, general population) throw out missives like Cornell or Penn are lesser than my school -- as if my crap smelled like roses.

    Again, it's unknowing outsiders who throw out those banal comparisons. Those of us who have attended, know to be sufficiently humble to one another -- regardless if our colors are Red, crimson, blue/white, black/orange, etc.
  • mikeyc765mikeyc765 Posts: 1,347Registered User Senior Member
    I agree with Masternika (and I am a Cornell alum).

    1) No, Cornell is not in any big city. If you want to have the city life, Ithaca is not going to do it for you. NYC is not particularly close either in my opinion; going there is a planned trip. Then again, I knew at least one person who went to the city EVERY weekend.
    2) Cornell is plenty fun unless you need a bustling city life to have fun. How much fun you have in college is going to be determined by your friendships anyway.
    3) Cornell isn't any colder than the rest of the northeast and is outside the snow belt so doesn't often get extreme snow storms like Buffalo or (sometimes) Syracuse.
    4) No bigger a problem at Cornell than any other school. You don't even need to make an effort to avoid them really; the drug culture is not all that pervasive.
    5) Perceived ease is irrelevant. Yes, it's among the easiest to be admitted to, but that only matters to high school seniors applying to schools. No adult goes around saying "I went to Harvard and it has a very low acceptance rate." As for the coursework itself, it's probably on par with other elite schools. I've had friends who transferred from other good schools (top 30) who noted the coursework at Cornell was noticeably harder. Professors have commented that they are able to assign more work to Cornell students and expect them to do it compared to other schools they've taught at.
    6) Weirdos are what make places interesting. I'm sure New Haven (Yale) would trade its criminals for Ithaca's weirdos in a heartbeat...
  • SaugusSaugus Posts: 3,882Registered User Senior Member
    I am this forum's resident pessimist, and here's my take:

    1) There's a lot to do on campus, more than you have time to do. Big names COME to campus and do shows. Jay Pharoh was here yesterday, for example. The city itself has quite a few restaurants. The mall is terrible, though. Then again, why do you need a big mall?

    2) No, a lot of the events are fun.

    3) It's starting to get cold right about now. Yesterday was actually perfect, but some days are bone-chillingly cold. Not much different from the rest of the NorthEast, though.

    4) Drugs are at every school. And there are plenty of people who don't use them.

    5) Easiest to get INTO. Not the easiest grading-wise. Once you get here, you don't care about acceptance rates anymore. You care about your GPA.

    6) There's 3,000+ people per class. Of course there are going to be weirdos. But they're the minority.
  • collookercollooker Posts: 20Registered User New Member
    Thanks Saugus!
    From reading your posts over the past year and knowing your dismay about HYP rejections and trepidation about Cornell... I knew you would be the perfect person to respond.
    Quiverfox, you can take what Saugus writes to the bank. He had the same apprehension once as you do now.
    Best to you in your college search!
  • floridadad55floridadad55 Posts: 2,262Registered User Senior Member
    I went to Cornell, albeit almost 40 years ago, and #1, #2, and #3 definitely applied went I went there.

    I hated it there, and as a result, did not encourage my son to apply there.

    It IS in the middle of nowhere.

    It is hard to get home from there, if you live in New York or Boston.

    There is no air service, at least when I went there.

    I made the mistake of not joining a frat. Big mistake. If you are not in a frat, you are out of the social loop.

    Further, when I went there, it was 2/3 men, although I understand that has drastically changed since the olden days.

    Now, that being said, my brother's kid is now going there, and I have heard that he loves it.
  • vivianvolkavivianvolka Posts: 153Registered User Junior Member
    If you have issues with it being isolated, Cornell is obviously not for you. Go to NYU or BU. I've lived in the city all my life and I am excited to get away for college so Cornell's gorgeous isolation was very attractive.

    Why are you applying if you don't like it? With your amazing stats, you can get into a lot of exciting city schools that don't have drugs and have plenty of cool people you can stay abstinent with.

    obvious troll is obvious.
  • zenziczenzic Posts: 180Registered User Junior Member
    1)It was in the middle of no where.
    2) Not fun, because of above.
    3) Extreme chill in winters.
    4)Drugs
    5) easiest ivy.
    6) place is filled with weirdos.

    1) I guess it is, it's not that close to any major city. There is Ithaca, obviously, but that's a fairly small town, not a big city. Still, weekend trips or even day trips to NYC, Philadelphia, etc. are possible, if you are so inclined.
    2) I don't see how 2 follows from 1. There is a lot to do here. You won't get bored with all the stuff going on on campus (and in downtown Ithaca, I suppose) coupled with schoolwork. If you do, do something worthwhile with your extra time, like research, a job, etc.
    3) Where I'm from the low temperature in the winter daytime is around 55, and it has not snowed in 30 years. However, the weather here hasn't been a problem for me yet. Sure, in most of November it's not comfortable to walk around in a T-shirt, but with a sweater (and head covering) it's not bad. These forecasts: Average Weather for Ithaca, NY - Temperature and Precipitation say it will be around 10-15 degrees colder in the heart of winter, so maybe that's pretty cold, we'll see.
    4) A lot of people do drink, and a fair number do marijuana, but from what I gather from friends at other colleges that's true almost anywhere, except at very strict/religious schools. I don't think hard drug use is common. Anyway, you can just stay away from if you want. I do not drink alcohol or do drugs and it's not been a problem. I assume that is what you mean by "Drugs."
    5) Quite possibly the easiest to get into, depending on your major (although still lots of people get rejected here and get into another one, and vice versa). Not easiest work wise - Brown's average grade is an A-, for instance. It can be easy if you take joke classes, but very challenging if you take advanced ones.
    6) That's just dumb, there are 14,000 undergraduates here, of course some of them will be "weirdos," but most are normal.

    Bottom line: If you dislike Cornell, then don't come here. But those reasons you gave don't make a lot of sense to me.
  • faustarpfaustarp Posts: 1,532Registered User Senior Member
    apparently one change since floridadad55 went to Cornell is that there's now an airport in Ithaca. obviously it's not always the best choice depending your travel plans, but it does work for some folks.

    I haven't read everyone's replies but what I did see looks totally reasonable. as for the people you've talked to previously, don't put too much stock in anyone's opinion if it's been formed based on a few snap judgments.
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