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Duke Engineering rankings...

QuantumArbiterQuantumArbiter Posts: 599- Member
edited January 2010 in Duke University
How does Princeton Review rank it 2 while the USNews ranks it in the 20s? That doesn't make any sense at all...

How good is Pratt anyways? In the top? Comparable to MIT's and Cornell's?
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Replies to: Duke Engineering rankings...

  • ArzachelArzachel Posts: 344Registered User Member
    Probably more comparable to Penn or Columbia than MIT or Cornell meaning that its good, but just not the absolute top.
  • bluedogbluedog Posts: 1,064Registered User Senior Member
    Yeah, it's more of a niche engineering school rather than a powerhouse. Pratt only has four departments so it's not a huge influential research force like MIT, Stanford, and Cornell. And research and innovation is really what sets engineering schools apart. So, while the student and professor quality are really great (much better than say UIllinois student body, which has a higher ranked engineering school), the breadth of studies isn't as vast since it's a much smaller school. PR methodologies were certainly strange to rank Duke #2 overall if you consider how much influence the school has had (obviously, larger schools have a huge advantage in this regard, but that's typically the metric used for engineering reputation.)

    UPenn would definitely be a good comparison - smaller, strong engineering school within the context of a much larger liberal arts education, but certainly not known as a national engineering power. The main difference is they have chemical, while Duke has civil. (While Material Science isn't a major a Duke, there is plenty of MS research within the ME dept.) If you're interested in BME, ME, ECE, or CE, then Pratt is a great choice, but if you're unsure or know you want something like chemical or aviation, then Pratt clearly wouldn't work for you. So, while quality and research on a per capita basis is solid, it doesn't have the depth of research and historical reputation of those more traditional engineering schools. Which could be a good or a bad thing depending on what you're looking for. I personally found that appealing about Pratt; I didn't want an engineering dominated school and wanted a smaller program, but others may disagree.

    Along the same lines, Duke engineers perhaps have a stronger lean towards business (i.e. consulting and finance) than other engineering schools. In fact, a full 53% of 2007 ME grads are consultants, analysts, or investment bankers! That compares to only 27% of ME grads that went into R&D, engineering consulting, or engineering grad school. This is probably a similar breakdown to UPenn, but very different from something like Ga Tech. I personally never thought in a million years I'd be interested in business and was set on engineering, but in the end, I am interested in business. So you never know. Here are the stats and something to consider when applying to schools:

    Where do ME students go? | Mechanical Engineering and Materials Science
    Where do Pratt undergraduates go after graduation? | Engineering at Duke University, Pratt School

    I'd pick Stanford, MIT, and the like over Duke, but personally would choose Duke over traditional engineering powers such as UIllinois, UMichigan, and Ga Tech not including any financial considerations even though they're ranked higher (in fact, I did choose Duke over the first two of those). Plus, keep in mind 30% of engineers transfer out nationwide, so you should choose a university that you'd be okay with going to the arts & sciences school in case you fall in the 30% (which nobody thinks would happen to them, but undoubtedly does.)

    The middle 50% ACT score range of accepted students to Pratt was 33-35, so it's certainly appealing to many high quality students. And it's BME department is especially well-known as being one of the top in the nation, having been the first accredited BME program in 1972.
  • schoolsearchingschoolsearching Posts: 430Registered User Member
    Where is this PR Ranking?
  • knatknat Posts: 264Registered User Junior Member
    "so you should choose a university that you'd be okay with going to the arts & sciences school in case you fall in the 30%"

    That is excellent advice. I actually have a few friends in Pratt who, after just one semester, have decided that they want to switch over the Trinity. (Conversely, I know a few Trinity students planning to switch over to Pratt).
  • 8thkey8thkey Posts: 60Registered User Junior Member
    could you give us the link to some kind of post-graduation survey (what grad schools they got into, exact salaries, employers,etc.)?

    thanks!
  • 8thkey8thkey Posts: 60Registered User Junior Member
    bumpppppppppppp
  • RMLRML Posts: 5,808Registered User Senior Member
    If you're to advise an affluent (rich) International Student who (assuming) got into Duke engineering as well as Berkeley engineering, Cornell engineering and CMU engineering, which school would you recommend?
  • SBRSBR Posts: 2,779Registered User Senior Member
    ^Depends on your intended field, how likely you are to stay in that field, the college environment you are looking for, your likely post-graduation plans etc.
  • RMLRML Posts: 5,808Registered User Senior Member
    The student is open to anything. It would be his 3rd time to the US. He likes to major in computer or electrical engineering. He also likes math. He has no preference to any particular campus type of environment. He also also isn't particular to the size of the school whether it's a large school or a small school. He afters quality education and general prestige of the university as well as the prestige of the university for his chosen major. And, again, the student is rich so he's not looking for any financial assistance program.
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