early action

xcman827 · 11-08-2007, 09:15 PM

so, i had planned on applying to Elon early action all along...i finished my application over the weekend and went onto my high school website to find out my school's CEEB # and i saw this:
"When the completed application is returned to Guidance, it will be placed on the bottom of the pile of applications to be processed. Fifteen days are needed to process applications."

I would like so much to yell at them because they never once said this at the multitude of assemblies we've had.

the early action deadline is November 10. Not gonna be processed by then. So now I must apply regular decision which is bad as:

Elon University (NC) 51% 33% 18% 65% EA, ED

the first number is % accepted under ED/EA...the second RD. The last number is the % of the freshman class enrolled under either EA/ED. Obviously this hurts my chances, a lot. Now I was pretty sure I was going to be admitted t Elon as my SATs are above average (1310 M/V), however I've read on this site of people who were rejected with higher SATs. This worries me, as I cannot apply under EA now, and my SATs are lower than those rejected. What is everyone's opinion? Will this significantly hurt my chances? I really like Elon and I was looking forward to an early answer. That would give me a longer chance to think about where I would end up. I know, I should have been more responsible and got it in earlier, however I just need to hear opinions on how this will effect my chances.

xcman827 · 11-08-2007, 09:30 PM

heres my full stats:

GPA-96.02 weighted
SAT- 680M 630V 580W

rank--30-40/500

9th grade:
studio art-96
english 9 honors-93
us history-97
honors geometry-93
honors bio-89
french II-97
construction systems-97
phys ed-97

10th grade:
studio art II-95
english 10 honors-94
us history II honors-94
honors alg II-94
honors chem-91
french III-96
lifetime FCS-99
career exploration-98
phys ed-98

11th grade:
english 11 honors-95
american gov honors-98
honors precalc/trig-95
honors physics-88
french IV-92
fitness/wellness I-98
health-98
athletic training-95

^none of those grades are weighted

12th grade schedule:
dual credit world civ
ceramics
anatomy/physiology
ap calc
honors english 12
dual credit enviromental biology
fitness/wellness II

the dual credit classes are college classes which we earn credit for college and high school

ec's:
cross country: 9,10,11,12
spring track:9,10,11,12
winter track:12
basketball athletic training:11...150 hours of volunteer
NHS-11,12
french club-9,10,11,12
cultural awareness club: 9,10,11,12
triathlon:11,12

jah · 11-08-2007, 11:45 PM

Why dont you submit your application online? That way you can make the 11/10 EA deadline.Have you sent in your official ACT or SAT score report? if not, do that asap. Also, I would talk to your guidance counselor and explain your oversite. Ask him/her if there is anyway they can expedite the process.

Then, call the Elon admission rep for your area and tell them you have submitted your app and requested your transcripts, letter of recommendation and the form from your counselor and that they should arrive within 2 weeks (or sooner if your counselor agrees to help you out). Ask them whether or not you can be considered for EA. The worst they can say is no and then you will know you did everything you could.

scuba723 · 11-09-2007, 05:08 AM

Definitely check in with Elon... are you sure that the Counselor Rec has to be in before the deadline? I thought it was just your part (the application itself) that needed to be ine, because I believe Elon would accept Nov SAT scores, even though they are released post-deadline. I wouldn't worry about it too much, just make sure that your Counselor will take care of things and give your Rep a call to make sure.

I had to e-mail the Admissions Office a question pertaining to my own application (for those curious, you can indeed use an essay written for a different application), and they wrote back VERY quickly. Benefit of applying to a smaller, private college I guess...

Good luck

bunny27 · 11-10-2007, 08:58 PM

Whhat since when is the RD acceptance rate 33%????

xcman827 · 11-10-2007, 10:59 PM

i was surprised about that too...but i saw it in the us world news rankings thing,,,online...there is a link that shows schools where its helpful to apply ED/EA,,,and Elon was one of them

lderochi · 11-11-2007, 08:43 AM

Yes, that's accurate. Elon loves ED applicants and really likes EA applicants.

Hope2bELONmom · 12-02-2007, 01:15 AM

Yes, this is true. My D applied ED and got in. I don't know whether it would have happened if she had applied RD and not visited the school. Her GPA was not high, but her test scores were nice. She had a great essay with an overabundance of extra-curriculars. Elon really looks at the "whole person"and whether or not they will make a positive contribution to the school. Your chances of acceptances are always magnified if you apply to a college ED. Schools love to know that they are your first choice!

eli · 12-09-2007, 12:03 PM

Does anyone know the relative acceptance rates of the EA applicants as distinguished from the ED applcants? All I have been able to find out is a % that lumps the two together.
Also, there is a rumor at my daughter's school that Elon filled 3/4 of its class with ED applicants who were accepted. Does anyone know if that is true? If so, I would think they have virtually zero room for EA applicants and will be sending out a lot of deferrals for the EAs; they have to leave themselves some room for good regular admission applicants.

lderochi · 12-09-2007, 01:40 PM

From the College Board website:

Quote:

* Number of early decision applications received: 459
* Number admitted under early decision plan: 297
* Number enrolled under early decision plan: 290

* Number of early action applications received: 4,121
* Number admitted under early action plan: 2,032
* Number enrolled under early action plan: 549

So under ED only 290 slots were taken. That's no more than 1/4 of the entering class. Now ED and EA combined does get into the 70% area.

eli · 12-09-2007, 03:05 PM

That's interesting. So my mental math is: 65% of EDs are accepted. 49% of EAs are accepted. EDs and EAs are 290 plus 549 of students in first year class = 839 out of a class of say 1250. That leaves 411 spots for regular admission applicants. If the overall admission rate is 42%, as reported, then the rate of admission for regular application admittees might be ___? In the ballpark of 20%???? (Average 65% and 49% giving double weight to the 49% because there are twice as many EAs who end up attending = 54%. If the regular admittees are only 1/3 the class, then their average admission rate would have to be about 20% to move the overall admission rate down from 54% to 42%). Of course there is still the possibility that EDs are up substantially this year given Elon's increasing popularity and the increasing competitiveness of college admissions. Also figures may be somewhat skewed by fact admission rates apply to all applicants, not just those who ultimately attend. This bias would probably mean that something more than 49% of EAs and 20% of regular applicants are admitted.
Sound right to you guys?

ChiDad2008 · 12-09-2007, 06:17 PM

If you listen to all the "rumors" that spread around this time of year, you will drive yourself crazy. Why would any school fill 75% of it's class without seeing all of the applicants? Not going to happen. Unless you hear something from the admissions office personally, you should be suspect of these types of rumors.

NCPOP · 12-09-2007, 09:25 PM

Apply as early as you're ready/certain Elon is a good fit. Beautiful campus but too suburban/rural for some. Good luck. My D (freahman) says the teachers are really fine. She applied EA but if you've got above the midline GPA and SAT's I'd think you'd be good to go RD as well. With above average stats an RD applicant may be less likely to be offered academic (Presidential)scholarships than an EA applicant but I'd think there's still space.

JustAMomOf4 · 12-10-2007, 08:29 AM

I believe that Elon probably filled 1/4 of the freshman class ED - If they shoot for a class of 1200-1300 - and accept 300 from ED that would be 1/4.

Here are the stats for last year -

Elon had an ACCEPTANCE rate of 42%. The received 9204 applications and accepted 3,838 students.

Their acceptance to enroll ratio is 34% - that is they need to accept 3,838 students to fill the class of 1,283.

Last year they accepted 297 ED out of 459 that applied - ED acceptance rate is 65% and their acceptance to enrollement is obviously close to 100%.

My daughter was at the Fall open house in November - she said that they said (haha) the ED application were about 500 this year and the EA applications were about 5,000.

Applications are clearly way up. But we don't know if the QUALITY of applicatons is way up as well.
Remember, not every accepted applicant will enroll.

Here is an interesting link to some admissions stats:
http://www.elon.edu/e-web/administra.../CDS2006_C.pdf

ChiDad2008 · 12-10-2007, 03:03 PM

An excellent point JustaMom. More and more kids are realizing there is no downside to applying EA. Just because number of apps is up doesn't mean the quality of apps is any different.