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Old 04-19-2009, 12:02 PM   #1
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Elon vs. Xavier

My son has narrowed his choice of schools to Elon and Xavier(Cincinnati, Ohio). He intends to major in business.

Xavier's business school has some unique aspects. They offer a mentor program where they assign a business executive to each freshman. This mentor works with the student until graduation. They have a "passport" program that lists out of classroom requirements each of the four years. The requirements include seminars, projects and service. The requirements must be completed in order to graduate. All of their internships are paid. They are building a state of the art business school facility that will be ready the fall of 2010. The business school student/teacher ratio is 14. This year Xavier was ranked 69 on the Business Week rankings of the top 100 undergraduate business schools.

Elon's business school has a focus on "engaged learning" with class discussions small breakout discussions instead of Professors primarily just lecturing. They have strong business-related study abroad programs. They have a new state of the art business school facility. The business school student/teacher ratio is 21. Elon did not make the Business Week rankings of the top 100 business schools.

We live in New England so both schools are a distance from home. The net cost of each school is comparable. Xavier is a surburban/city location, Elon is a rural location. The weather is warmer at Elon.

I am looking for input on both schools and advice on which would be the best choice for my son.

Thank You.
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:18 PM   #2
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"Elon did not make the Business Week rankings of the top 100 business schools."

For what it's worth (I am still trying to determine this myself) It's not that Elon did not make the Rankings, as in they were below a certain number. They were unranked due to lack if response to the survey by recruiters.

From the Business week article:

"Response Rate Counts

Before determining the final ranking, we first had to review each school's response rates on the student and recruiter surveys. Of the 137 programs that were eligible for ranking, a total of 36 were eliminated. Thirteen were eliminated for low response rates in the student survey: Auburn University, Florida State University, Howard University, Loyola College Maryland, Mercer University, Rochester Institute of Technology, State University of New York (SUNY) Buffalo, University of Alabama, University of Central Florida, University of Georgia, University of Hawaii, University of the Pacific, and Worcester Polytechnic Institute.

A further 17 were cut for low response rates in the recruiter survey: Butler University, Clarkson University, Creighton University, East Tennessee State University, Illinois State University, Ohio Northern University, Seattle University, Seton Hall University, SUNY Geneseo, St. Louis University, The College of New Jersey, Tulane University, University of Denver, University of Kentucky, University of Louisville, University of Vermont, and West Virginia University. An additional six schools were eliminated because of low response rates on both surveys: California Lutheran University, Elon University, Iona College, Pacific Lutheran University, University of Tulsa, and University of Utah.

For the 101 schools remaining, the student survey score counts for 30% of the final ranking, with the recruiter survey score contributing 20%. Starting salaries and the MBA feeder school measure contribute 10% each. The academic quality measure supplies the remaining 30%"

My daughter is still considering both Tulane, Elon, and TCNJ, all of which made this list.
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:32 PM   #3
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Elon vs. Xavier(Cincinnati)

The fact that a school has a low response rate from recruiters may be an indicator that the school is NOT well connected to the recruiter world. It seems to me that being connected to recruiters helps with job placement at graduation.

A key statistic to ask each business school is what percentage of their class of 2008 were employed upon graduation. In the case of Xavier it was 95% in the case of Elon it was 48%.
This helps support the case that being connected to recruiters helps with job placement.
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