magicalbeing

I found this: http://www.emory.edu/PROVOST/IPR/CDS2007_2008.pdf
It is the Emory Common Data Set 2007-2008, which is this year's data isn't it? It has the number of wait list admits already filled in. However, the number of people who accepted a place of the wait list is exactly 800 for the previous 3 datasets as well, which seems suspicious to me. Can anyone verify the validity of this?

social_nerd

well there's a link from emory directly.
i'm assuming its pretty legit.

dgebll

its the CDS for this year meaning the freshman class that is currently enrolled, not the class that has just been admitted.

drfizz

yes, it is definitely not the entering class of 2008-2012. just look at the data itself, there's a ridiculous amount.

auraeight

class of 2012's entrance year would be 2008-2009

Nogueira

yea i think this is last year's data for the class of 2011

collegebound5

The data seems to indicate that only 8% were accepted who submitted only the ACT.
It says that 92% of admitted students submitted the SAT, and 38% of admitted students submitted the ACT. Since only 8% did not submit the SAT, I would assume that only 8% submitted the ACT, and 30% of accepted applicants submitted both the ACT and SAT. (unless they are counting submission of SAT subject tests in this calculation)
It would be interesting to know what percent of all applicants submitted the ACT alone and if acceptance rates are much lower for submitting just the ACT versus the SAT or the SAT and ACT.
Even though top colleges indicate that they view both exams the same,
I personally believe that one has a better chance of getting accepted if they submit just the SAT or the ACT with the SAT I or with the SAT II subject tests, rather than the ACT alone with no subject tests.
Where an applicant applies with just the ACT scores and no SAT II subject tests, the admission officers may wonder if that person took the SAT reasoning test and did not perform well. Thus, submitting the SAT with or without the ACT may be an advantage.
This may not affect those who submit a very high ACT score. However those who submit ACT scores in the mid 50% range, I think may have a disadvantage over those who submit comparable SAT scores.

NorCalDad

Collegebound5,

Your use of certain terms does not reflect what the Emory CDS for 2007-2008 states and intends with the data, and so I’m providing a gentle clarification for your sake as well as others who may be reading.

Referencing section C9 of the CDS, the percentages and numbers presented are for First-year Freshman students who ENROLLED in Fall of 2007 – not those who were ADMITTED (same as Accepted).

Therefore, when you mention “92% of admitted students submitted the SAT”, in actuality it is 92% of ENROLLED students (who not only were ADMITTED [same as Accepted] but also decided to ENROLL as Freshmen). Further, your comment that “only 8% were accepted who submitted only the ACT” is flawed, because the percentage once again is pertinent to ENROLLED freshman students. The percentages provided would indicate that 92% of Admitted students who ultimately enrolled provided SAT scores; and 38% provided ACT scores, for a total percentage of 130%, thus implying that 30% of the Enrolled students provided both SAT and ACT scores.

Further, we can reason that only 8% of the Enrolled students submitted only ACT scores. However, this number cannot be further reduced for inferences or deductions because we do not know the specific numbers of those students who were ADMITTED but ultimately chose NOT to ENROLL at Emory. (Conceivably, a much higher percentage of those who chose NOT to enroll at Emory, though accepted, may possibly have submitted ACT scores only. Since Emory does not provide us this data in the CDS, we do not know. This is not to say that this data does not exist, but that Emory chooses not to provide these numbers.) Without more data, which only Emory can provide, we are left only to speculate and to do so without corroborating information to validate our guesses. Any assumptions made in the absence of more data might be both inaccurate and unfair.

Here are some additional extractions from the data presented in the CDS:

ADMITTED STUDENTS (Accepted):

Gender / # Admitted / # Applicants / Admit %
------------------------------------------------------------
Men / 1907 / 6349 / 30%
Women / 2268 / 9017 / 28%

Total / 4175 / 15366 / 27%


ENROLLED STUDENTS:

Gender / # Enrolled / # Admitted / Yield Rate
------------------------------------------------------------
Men / 594 / 1907 / 31%
Women / 641 / 2268 / 25%

Total / 1235 / 4175 / 29.5%


EARLY DECISION:

ED Applicants: 1577
ED Admitted Students: 481
ED Admit Rate: 30%

collegebound5

Thanks NorCalDad for clarification