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will 4's be accepted if I want to be under the new GER??

dgebll

4s will be accepted for this fall, but not next fall (fall of 09).

Leibow11

dgebll, where did you hear that 4s will not be accepted in 09? No mention of that was conveyed to me by admissions during my conversation with them today. And I was asking in reference to my D who deferred matriculation until 09.

Nogueira

well i guess then 4 will be accepted even those entering emory in fall of 2009, as what Leibow11 says

ahhhhhhhhhh

Well..this is what I heard. There are two routes, new GER or old GER....if you want to go to the new route...and AP Credits must be 5's but with a more flexible route......if you old the old route AP Credits must be 4 or 5's but more requirement.....

Class of 2009 will all be under the new GER so only 5's will be accepted....
They let the 2008 students choose b/c they have decided on the new GER AFTER they have students committed to them. They think that it is not fair...therefore, they let the students choose.

Leibow11

ahhhhhh. Where did you "hear" what you described above. In an email from the admissions office I asked "Are AP scores of 4 and 5 still counting for graduation credit under the new GER plan?" and the answer was YES. If you have factual information then I'd love to know where it came from. If not, then let's not pass on hearsay on this discussion board. All that does is perpetuate misinformation and rumor. Thank you.

Nogueira

Well the only "evidence" that one had was the old article a while ago, before it was even finalized, and since Leibow11 asked yesterday/today and got the answer, i think Leibow11 is more solid.

ahhhhhhhhhh

oh...I was referring to the article...sorry

dgebll

I saw this info in the article and from the email that one of the deans sent to all the current students with this information. Some were worried that our AP 4s wouldn't count if we were graduating in the spring of 09.
I don't have it anymore, but that's what it said. The Office of UG Education is the one to get the best info from. I would email them. I haven't heard anything about 4s being accepted after this fall, but I do know that the OUGE is working out all the specifics (as stated in the email).

Leibow11

We should all understand the ramifications of this type of change. It affects everyone that have been accepted and those that are already students at Emory. To lessen or reduce requirements is seldom a problem. To make them more restrictive is often a problem. If a student decides to attend a school based on particular criteria, the backlash if those requirements (AP Credit) are changed are enormous. Obviously, a school can change graduation requirements effective on a certain date in the future as long as plenty of notice is given and an applicant is informed of those changes before they commit to attend. There is no guarantee that Emory won't change the AP policy for NEW students, effective in 09. But if a student, like my D, attends Emory based on the current policy and plans to complete her degree in 3 years (with 32 credits worth of AP courses) then any change affecting her would be unrealistic.

Anyway, dgebll, the bottom line is the information I've now received from 2 admissions counselors is that 4's and 5's are still counted, even for those that defer admission like my D. Very few top tier schools (IVY's, top 10 LAC's) allow the amount AP credit that Emory allows. And I do believe that in time, as the selectivity of Emory increases even more, they may reduce the AP credit given for graduation and only allow flexibility for course placement. Most students attend top schools with a significant number of AP scores in the 4 & 5 range.

I think we're wearing out this thread Let's not let rumor, hearsay, or inactive plans cloud the facts. Until we read it on the website that the AP policy has officially changed we're just upsetting everyone for no reason.

dgebll

According to the Task Force on the GERs, their report states "GER courses may normally be exempted only with AP test scores of '5'..."

I got this from a professor on the task force. Only 5s will be taken after Fall of 2008.

Leibow11

dgebll; was this in the final approval document? Because the article in the Emory wheel that reported the approval of the new GER's makes no mention of on 5's. The other thing to consider is that GER's may only be exempted with 5's but that does not say that 4's cannot be used for graduation credit for courses outside of GER's. Here is the excerpt from an email I received from the admissions office:

"There was a discussion about Emory no longer accepting AP scores of 4, but that policy was not changed. Emory will continue to accept scores of 5 and 4."

I'm going to stick with that belief.

Nogueira

well we'll just have to wait and see . just have to ask the people there first-hand i guess when the school starts.