JamieBrown

(Where highest degree is a doctorate)


1. MIT 4.9
2. Stanford 4.8
3. UC Berkeley 4.7
4. Caltech 4.6
5. Georgia Tech 4.5
6. Illinois 4.4
6. Michigan 4.4
8. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
9. Cornell 4.2
9. Purdue 4.2
11. Princeton 4.1
11. Texas 4.1
13. Northwestern 4.0
13. Wisconsin 4.0
15. Johns Hopkins 3.9
15. Virginia Tech 3.9
17. Penn State 3.8
17. Rice 3.8
17. Texas A&M 3.8
20. Columbia 3.7
20. UCLA 3.7
20. UC San Diego 3.7
20. Univ. of Washington 3.7
24. Duke 3.6
24. Maryland/CP 3.6
24. Minnesota 3.6
27. Harvard 3.5
27. NC State 3.5
27. Ohio State 3.5
27. Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 3.5
27. Florida 3.5
27. Penn 3.5
27. USC 3.5
34. UC Davis 3.4
34. Colorado 3.4
34. Virginia 3.4
34. Vanderbilt 3.4
38. Iowa State 3.3
38. UC Santa Barbara 3.3
38. Washington Univ/StL 3.3
38. Yale 3.3
42. Arizona State 3.2
42. Brown 3.2
42. Case Western 3.2
42. Lehigh 3.2
42. UC Irvine 3.2
42. Notre Dame 3.2
48. Michigan State 3.1
48. Rutgers 3.1
48. Arizona 3.1
48. Pittsburgh 3.1

JamieBrown

The above rankings released Sept 2011 by USNWR

JamieBrown

last year's:

US News Undergrad Engineering Rankings 2011

Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs (Where highest degree is a doctorate)
Ranked in 2010
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology Cambridge, MA 4.8
2 Stanford University Stanford, CA 4.7
3 University of California--Berkeley Berkeley, CA 4.6
4 California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA 4.5
Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 4.5
6 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign Champaign, IL 4.4
7 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor Ann Arbor, MI 4.3
8 Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 4.2
Cornell University Ithaca, NY 4.2
Purdue University--West Lafayette West Lafayette, IN 4.2
11 Princeton University Princeton, NJ 4.1
University of Texas--Austin Austin, TX 4.1
13 Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, MD 3.9
Northwestern University Evanston, IL 3.9
University of Wisconsin--Madison Madison, WI 3.9
Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 3.9
17 Pennsylvania State University--University Park University Park, PA 3.8
Texas A&M University--College Station College Station, TX 3.8
19 Rice University Houston, TX 3.7
University of California--Los Angeles Los Angeles, CA 3.7
University of Maryland--College Park College Park, MD 3.7
22 Duke University Durham, NC 3.6
University of California--San Diego La Jolla, CA 3.6
University of Minnesota--Twin Cities Minneapolis, MN 3.6
University of Washington Seattle, WA 3.6
26 Columbia University New York, NY 3.5
Harvard University Cambridge, MA 3.5
North Carolina State University--Raleigh Raleigh, NC 3.5
Ohio State University--Columbus Columbus, OH 3.5
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Troy, NY 3.5
University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA 3.5
32 University of California--Davis Davis, CA 3.4
University of Colorado--Boulder Boulder, CO 3.4
University of Florida Gainesville, FL 3.4
University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 3.4
36 Lehigh University Bethlehem, PA 3.3
University of California--Santa Barbara Santa Barbara, CA 3.3
University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 3.3
Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 3.3
40 Brown University Providence, RI 3.2
Case Western Reserve University Cleveland, OH 3.2
Iowa State University Ames, IA 3.2
Michigan State University East Lansing, MI 3.2
Yale University New Haven, CT 3.2
45 Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 3.1
Dartmouth College Hanover, NH 3.1
Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey--New Brunswick Piscataway, NJ 3.1
University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 3.1
University of California--Irvine Irvine, CA 3.1
University of Notre Dame Notre Dame, IN 3.1
Washington University in St. Louis St. Louis, MO 3.1

alexandrarush

Do you have the latest rankings for Chemical Engineering?

Thank you for your previous post (-:

JamieBrown

(where the highest degree offered is a doctorate)

1. MIT
2. UC Berkeley
3. Stanford
4. Caltech
4. Minnesota
6. Wisconsin
7. Texas
8. Princeton
10. Illinois
11. Delaware
12. Purdue
12. Michigan
14. Cornell
14. UCSB
16. Penn State
17. Northwestern
18. Carnegie Mellon
19. Columbia
19. NC State

starbright

What can actually change that is meaningful in the course of one year? It seems the only value of these is to sell a magazine.

boneh3ad

Not far off. They are okay at putting schools roughly in the order of how they are viewed by others, and that is about it. Still, departments bend over backwards in order to get higher on the list due to the fact that so many people read said magazine and take the rankings for much more than they are actually worth.

JamieBrown

as you can see, there isn't much of a significant change on a year-to-year basis

al6200

These rankings, despite being called ugrad rankings, are obviously graduate program rankings. Who really thinks that Texas A&M offers a better undergraduate engineering program than Harvard, even if Texas A&M has a larger graduate offering?

starbright

I know, I know! I've worked in such esteemed institutions for decades. On one hand they lament and criticize the rankings and pretend to not care (among themselves), and the administrations runs in circles trying to 'move up'. The problem though is that they don't actually change what matters, but of course play superficial games, easy data driven stuff along the surface. Games that actually completely and absolutely undermine actual education and benefits to students.

And yes they can't have the rankings move too much or that would kill their credibility. I can't speak for this particular ranking but I know that Business Week in ranking b-schools has always used a formula with a constant so that it muted any real year to year changes (too much changed based on the data would blow the whole thing out of the water).

Don't get me wrong-- of course schools really do differ in quality, but at the same time, there are really no meaningful differences between relatively close rankings. Its annoying when people give it attention and weight it doesn't deserve.

boneh3ad

Anyone working in engineering fields really thinks this. Harvard is not an engineering school and does not put any real effort into their engineering program.

ken285

I'm curious as to how one would argue Harvard's undergrad engineering program is better than Texas A&M's (assuming we're talking purely about the engineering program and nothing else).

JamieBrown

this link should be added to the second "sticky" above

TritonEye

Does anyone have the ME rankings?
Thanks in advance.

JamieBrown

(where the highest degree offered is a doctorate)




#1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Cambridge, MA
$40,732 10,566 10% 98% 93% 62.6% 1410-1560
#2 Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, GA
in-state: $9,652, out-of-state: $27,862 20,720 52% 93% 80% 40.5% 1240-1430
#2 Stanford University
Stanford, CA
$40,569 19,535 7% 98% 95% 70.4% 1360-1550
#4 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
Ann Arbor, MI
in-state: $12,590, out-of-state: $37,265 41,924 51% 96% 90% 47.8% 27-31
#5 University of California--Berkeley
Berkeley, CA
in-state: $11,767, out-of-state: $34,645 35,838 22% 97% 91% 62.0% 1230-1490
#6 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
Champaign, IL
in-state: $13,558, out-of-state: $27,700 43,862 67% 94% 84% 34.0% 26-31
#7 Purdue University--West Lafayette
West Lafayette, IN
in-state: $9,478, out-of-state: $27,646 39,726 65% 87% 69% 36.8% 1040-1290
#8 Cornell University
Ithaca, NY
$41,541 20,939 18% 96% 93% 54.2% 1310-1500
#9 California Institute of Technology
Pasadena, CA
$37,704 2,175 13% 98% 90% 64.3% 1470-1580
#9 Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA
$43,396 11,618 33% 95% 86% 67.0% 1300-1500
#9 University of Texas--Austin
Austin, TX
in-state: $9,794, out-of-state: $32,506 51,195 47% 92% 81% 34.3% 1110-1370
#12 Princeton University
Princeton, NJ
$37,000 7,802 9% 98% 96% 71.3% 1400-1580
#13 Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
in-state: $11,100, out-of-state: $24,560 31,006 67% 92% 80% 24.7% 1120-1320
#14 Pennsylvania State University--University Park
University Park, PA
in-state: $15,984, out-of-state: $28,066 45,233 55% 93% 85% 39.2% 1090-1300
#15 Northwestern University
Evanston, IL
$41,983 19,389 23% 97% 94% 75.0% 1380-1530
#16 University of Wisconsin--Madison
Madison, WI
in-state: $9,671, out-of-state: $25,421 42,595 57% 94% 84% 45.0% 26-30
#17 Texas A&M University--College Station
College Station, TX
N/A 49,129 69% 92% 79% 20.5% 1130-1330