kkamida11

I think its NE... normally NE to ME.

I think I saw somewhere that about 50% dropped out after enrolling for NE..

OhNoItsHeather

At my school, it seems as though the number of BME freshmen was cut in half after the first semester

KidNovelist

Whoa what school is that Zorz?

Zorz

UNIVERSITY AT bUFFALO.

charizardpal

Philosophy. People just aren't smart enough to comprehend the classics of Socrates and the..........*gives up and waits for Sauronvoldermort to conclude and support the statement.* Nothing happens. *goes home*

lkf725

zorz,
Do you think Buffalo's high drop out rate is due to difficulty, or lack of support services, or poor selection of students, or what? That is an amazing statistic!

scorp

Zorz is it possible that CS1 is required of all engineers and CS2 only of CSE majors and that the apparent 80% drop out rate is just the fact that all those people don't need to take CS2 and were never majoring in CSE to begin with?

ken285

I would assume what scorp said is the case. 800 students in one year in one major sounds awfully high.

Zorz

No we have a special class for engineers which is in C++ that is EAS 230. Everybody who takes our Class CSE115 which is CS1 is a CS or comp engineering major. There are also Physics, applied math and other computational majors that require the CSE 115 and 116 which are cs1 and cs2. All majors that require this make ya take CS1(115) and CS2(116).

We also have classes called into to CS for non majors which is 113 and 114. people in Business and media study s as well as other non science majors take these and they are drastically easier.



My school has close to 30K students, many students come into CSE thinking they will learn how to assemble computers or something like that. Ive been in 3 schools and it has always been the same. People don't really know what CSE is.

I don't think it is the schools poor selection, if you are qualified to get into the school then it really doesn't matter what the major is. This is why so many people choose CSE and have no clue what it is.



as for the 800 students at a school as big as mine, I dont see how it could even be doubted. 800 people from

Cs
Comp E
Computational Physics
Computational Bio
computational Chem
Applied Math
Also there are graduate students in it.

with people from all these majors, it is expected to have a large first class.



People drop because it is hard and not what they expect. But I loved it and the teachers were great. Some of the Best Intro CS professors I have ever seen.

ken285

Ahh that makes more sense. So it's not really one major, but rather 6.

KidNovelist

Zorz, Can you tell me what to expect in CSE/Computer Engineering? I want to go to CCNY for that major but once you're telling it isn't assembling computers, can you go in depth and tell me what I learn from the classes taught? And what career fields can I pursue?

RETHEEM

at my school,we started chem E with 60 guys....we r not like 30...and i presume more will drop after thermo 1...coz its ripping everybody's neck

Zorz

While City college is a decent school if you are planning on doing engineering or any science go to a University or something. Cuny schools are great for English and history and stuff but awful for engineering and science. Ive tried to take take summer classes there and the level of education was so much lower.

Computer Engineering is a Mix of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering. Comp sci being mostly Algorithms/Data Structures, Math, Programming. and the ideas of how we can use computers to solve problems. the Electrical Engineering is lower level programming, circuits, signals , high power EE.

What computer engineering does is take the 2 and merge them, some schools call this major EECS.

Here is the Cirriculum from my school, any Abet acreddited school will have a similair but not exact curriculum.



CHE 107 General Chemistry for Engineers*

CSE 115 Introduction to Computer Science for Majors I *
//Main ideas of object oriented programming(OOP) languages are presented, //such as syntax, and polymorphism.


CSE 116 Introduction to Computer Science for Majors II*
//Deeper Level of OOP is shown. we do much more complex projects that deal //with generics or templates, we do bags, Linked lists, stacks, queues, visitors //and some basic algorithms as well as big-oh

CSE 191 Introduction to Discrete Mathematics *
//Into class to Logic and Proofs, you learn proof by induction, contrapositives //and much more.


CSE 250 Algorithms and Data Structures
//Deep insight of algorithm analysis along with BST, AVL tree's. Red black tree's, splay tress, queue's, stacks, Heaps, Graph algorithms.



CSE 305 Introduction to Programming Languages
/intro to why,how and what programming languages are, how they are made, why they are made that way and how to make one.


CSE 341 Computer Organization
//Assembly, memeory, registers things like that.
CSE 379 Introduction to Microprocessors and Microcomputers
CSE 380 Introduction to Microprocessors Lab

CSE 421 Introduction to Operating Systems
//Delves into Operating systems, students learn and develop there own Linux/bsd Distro
CSE 442 Software Engineering
//How to work in a team, lays out how to make the most profit and best design choices. Best ways to develop Massive projects.
CSE 453 Hardware/Software Integrated Systems Design
EAS 204 Thermodynamics or EAS 207 Statics
EAS 305 Applied Probability
EE 202 Circuit Analysis I //DC circuits
EE 203 Circuit Analysis II //AC circuits
EE 303 Signal Analysis and Transform Methods
EE 310 Electronic Devices and Circuits I //electronics
EE 311 Electronic Devices and Circuits II
EE 312 Basic Electronic Instrumentation Laboratory
EE 324 Electromagnetic Theory/Applied Electro magnetics
EE 353 Electronic Circuits Lab


EE 378 Digital Principles
//Boolean Algebra, Minimization, logic gates, assembly and some other stuff
EE 408 Senior Seminar



MTH 141 College Calculus I*
MTH 142 College Calculus II
MTH 241 College Calculus III
MTH 306 Introduction to Differential Equations
MTH 309 Linear Algebra or MTH 437 Numerical Analysis I
PHY 107 Physics I*
PHY 108 Physics II
PHY 158 Physics II Lab
PHY 207 Physics III
PHY 257 Physics III Lab






My major is Comp engineering and EE. I tried to fill in as much as I could. I personally love my discipline and expect to get a good job. If I dont they I will still be satisfied with what I learned.