http://talk.collegeconfidential.com en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:49:54 GMT vBulletin 30 http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/images/misc/rss.jpg http://talk.collegeconfidential.com http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/813340-harvard-2-2-program.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:36:43 GMT Hello, I recently stumbled across this program, and after a bit of research, I must say Im really interested in applying for this program.

I'm still a lower sophomore (34 Credits), and I've got 3 Semesters left until the deadline for the July 2011 July Application, since I plan to graduate in 2012.

I'm a current CUNY Student with a GPA of 3.5 enrolled in Btech, I've yet to take the GMATs. The average GPAs of the accepted 2009 Applicants were 3.73, and an average GMAT score of 727. Most were female, and Engineering/Life Science majors.

In the upcoming years, I plan to increase my GPA up to at least a 3.8, and score a GMAT score of 760 or higher. However, I'm still worried that my chances would still be pretty slim with those credentials alone because of my undergraduate school being average, being an Asian Male (I heard they're looking for diversity..), and lacking any "Outside" factors such as extracurriculars, and signs of leadership. I can't change who I am, nor can i change my school now. But I can work on strengthening my application through other means.

Can I get suggestions how I can do those? I heard volunteering at Soup Kitchens, and getting as much internship experience as possible are some ways. What are other ways to show leadership and improve my applications? I guess I just want to take the most of the following 1 1/2 years to make my application stand out as much as possible, with my academic standings to simply back it up.

Thanks in advance taking the time to read this. ]]> Business School - MBA N2L48-210867 http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/813340-harvard-2-2-program.html http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/812834-top-10-mba-admission-question.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:09:38 GMT Do you think it's possible to one day get into a top 10 or top 15 MBA program with a degree in electrical engineering from CCNY? I'll have high grades and I'm confident I'll be able to get quality work experience but would that be enough? Or do I need to come up with the money and go to a different school if I wish to participate in an elite MBA program?

I'm also considering Columbia or UF, possibly a degree in NYU in a different major but those would be considerably more expensive. ]]> Business School - MBA Token423-152114 http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/812834-top-10-mba-admission-question.html http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/811449-help-dba-phd-biz-programs-without-much-quant.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:08:38 GMT Hi, guys I am very interested in either MBA or PhD/DBA in Business (Strategy, OB, or Marketing). The thing is, I was preparing for applying to a PhD in Poli Sci in college and haven`t taken any math. I have taken linear algebra at a community college between junior and senior year of high school and calc and prob and statistics back in the senior year in high school (IB program). First semester micro and macro econ in college. Grades for all these were actually very good, but my GREs are 800 V / 730 Q. GPA 3.86 (from a uni where every class grade is between 0.0 and 4.0) I am interested in fields that are not quant-heavy (Strategy, OB, or Marketing) and my credentials besides quant are solid. With my deficiency in quant, do you I have a chance in top PhDs/DBAs in these fields, or should I opt for trying to go for MBA? Are there top doctorate programs (or fields) where this will matter less? I know Harvard MBA is not so quant-heavy. How about their DBA/PhD? I asked them about applying with weaker quant, but they gave me the standard `we look at all aspects of the application` BS. Last year I applied to Stanford PhD in OB, and a committee member me told me that I almost got in. When I asked for app feedback, they didn`t say anything about quant--only biz background. Was this a fluke or is lack of extensive quant background not a big deal for some biz fields? Thanks so much for the help! Hi, guys

I am very interested in either MBA or PhD/DBA in Business (Strategy, OB, or Marketing). The thing is, I was preparing for applying to a PhD in Poli Sci in college and haven`t taken any math. I have taken linear algebra at a community college between junior and senior year of high school and calc and prob and statistics back in the senior year in high school (IB program). First semester micro and macro econ in college. Grades for all these were actually very good, but my GREs are 800 V / 730 Q. GPA 3.86 (from a uni where every class grade is between 0.0 and 4.0)

I am interested in fields that are not quant-heavy (Strategy, OB, or Marketing) and my credentials besides quant are solid.

With my deficiency in quant, do you I have a chance in top PhDs/DBAs in these fields, or should I opt for trying to go for MBA?

Are there top doctorate programs (or fields) where this will matter less? I know Harvard MBA is not so quant-heavy. How about their DBA/PhD? I asked them about applying with weaker quant, but they gave me the standard `we look at all aspects of the application` BS.

Last year I applied to Stanford PhD in OB, and a committee member me told me that I almost got in. When I asked for app feedback, they didn`t say anything about quant--only biz background. Was this a fluke or is lack of extensive quant background not a big deal for some biz fields?

Thanks so much for the help! ]]> Business School - MBA Pirateship2007-313192 http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/811449-help-dba-phd-biz-programs-without-much-quant.html http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/810785-2009-ranking-us-business-schools-quantnetwork.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:22 GMT I would like to bring to your attention the recently published Ranking of US Business Schools done by QuantNetwork. The ranking is based on unbiased, publicly available data from Xmarks and uses a patent pending proprietary analysis algorithm. The ranking can be found at QuantNetwork - Financial Engineering Forum - 2009 QuantNetwork Ranking of US Business Schools (http://www.quantnet.com/business-schools-rankings/) Detailed methodology is published at QuantNetwork - Financial Engineering Forum - QuantNetwork Ranking - Methodology (http://www.quantnet.com/business-schools-rankings/?do=methodology) When compared to other rankings, the 2009 US Business Schools Ranking by QuantNetwork is significantly closer to the 2009 US News and World Report Ranking of US Business Schools than the 2008 Business Week Ranking, and the 2009 Forbes Ranking of Business Schools, and has the lowest rank differential of all the rankings. The ability to use public unbiased data to generate a ranking that is consistent with rankings of long standing tradition based on proprietary information reported by the schools in an elaborate process is rather remarkable. The 2009 QuantNetwork Ranking of US Business Schools 1. Harvard Business School 2. Stanford University 2. University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 4. New York University (Stern) 4. University of California, Berkeley (Haas) 6. Northwestern University (Kellogg) 7. University of Chicago (Booth) 8. Columbia University 8. Dartmouth College (Tuck) 10. Duke University (Fuqua) 10. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan) 10. University of Michigan (Ross) 13. Yale University 14. University of California, Los Angeles (Anderson) 15. Cornell University (Johnson) 16. University of Virginia (Darden) 17. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) 18. Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper) 18. University of Southern California (Marshall) 20. Emory University (Goizueta) 20. University of Texas, Austin (McCombs) 22. Georgetown University (McDonough) The same algorithm was used by QuantNetwork to rank Financial Engineering MS Programs from US and Canada. The resulting ranking can be found at QuantNetwork - Financial Engineering Forum - QuantNetwork Ranking of Financial Engineering/Mathematical Finance MS Programs (http://www.quantnet.com/mfe-programs-rankings/) I would like to bring to your attention the recently published Ranking of US Business Schools done by QuantNetwork.

The ranking is based on unbiased, publicly available data from Xmarks and uses a patent pending proprietary analysis algorithm.

The ranking can be found at QuantNetwork - Financial Engineering Forum - 2009 QuantNetwork Ranking of US Business Schools

Detailed methodology is published at QuantNetwork - Financial Engineering Forum - QuantNetwork Ranking - Methodology


When compared to other rankings, the 2009 US Business Schools Ranking by QuantNetwork is significantly closer to the 2009 US News and World Report Ranking of US Business Schools than the 2008 Business Week Ranking, and the 2009 Forbes Ranking of Business Schools, and has the lowest rank differential of all the rankings.

The ability to use public unbiased data to generate a ranking that is consistent with rankings of long standing tradition based on proprietary information reported by the schools in an elaborate process is rather remarkable.


The 2009 QuantNetwork Ranking of US Business Schools

1. Harvard Business School
2. Stanford University
2. University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
4. New York University (Stern)
4. University of California, Berkeley (Haas)
6. Northwestern University (Kellogg)
7. University of Chicago (Booth)
8. Columbia University
8. Dartmouth College (Tuck)
10. Duke University (Fuqua)
10. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
10. University of Michigan (Ross)
13. Yale University
14. University of California, Los Angeles (Anderson)
15. Cornell University (Johnson)
16. University of Virginia (Darden)
17. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler)
18. Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper)
18. University of Southern California (Marshall)
20. Emory University (Goizueta)
20. University of Texas, Austin (McCombs)
22. Georgetown University (McDonough)


The same algorithm was used by QuantNetwork to rank Financial Engineering MS Programs from US and Canada. The resulting ranking can be found at QuantNetwork - Financial Engineering Forum - QuantNetwork Ranking of Financial Engineering/Mathematical Finance MS Programs ]]> Business School - MBA baraider-312818 http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/810785-2009-ranking-us-business-schools-quantnetwork.html http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/810528-long-post-asking-about-marketing-summary-cliffs-bottom.html Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:02:33 GMT So the business forum hasn't been helpful so far. Can someone help me out. I understand this is a long post, so I posted the key points at the bottom (cliffs section). Thanks:

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Hi,

So I've been a long-time lurker on this site, and it seems like a common theme is that you have to go to a "target" school to have any sort of career in business. If you don't, then you are basically stuck with accounting since that's the only area where the top firms don't just recruit from a handful of the top schools.

Well, my situation is that I know for sure that I want to do something in marketing, and eventually get my MBA from Kellogg. More specifically, I want to get into the managerial/quantitative side of marketing (i.e. brand management, consulting, market research) as opposed to the pure advertising side. The problem is, I don't go to Wharton. I go to a school that is respected in my region (my region isn't exactly a hotbed for finance/business anyway), but isn't a target, so is it a bad idea to do marketing since I don't go to an ivy? I absolutely WILL NOT DO ACCOUNTING (I hate my accounting class so much), and aside from my minor in econ, which is basically set, the only other field I would be willing to pursue outside of marketing is finance, so is it possible to get into marketing with a finance degree? Basically, I don't want to get a marketing degree and end up with a 40k sales job that has nothing to do with the area of marketing I'm interested in, and then be screwed out of a top-tier MBA.

So what should I do:

Major in marketing, minor in econ: take some extra quant classes (I'm thinking CS rather than math or some more stats) to show I'm not like most state schoolers in marketing and pray I get a good job in something that isn't sales or advertising.

Major in finance, minor in econ: try and break into marketing (if possible with finance degree), or else do a job in finance, pray I get into a good MBA and use the MBA to make a career change.

Otherwise, if all of this goes to ****, I think I'll just get a MAcc from a program designed for non-accounting majors and just be a damn accountant if that's my only other option.

One more question: Aside from marketing, can people with marketing majors also pursue strategy/operations consulting as well?

thanks


Cliffs:
-Don't go to target, read on these boards that you have to go to target for good jobs.
-Want to get into the non-sales/advertising part of marketing, but don't go to target.
-Hate accounting, refuse to do it, willing to do finance major.
-Need help deciding between finance w/econ minor or marketing w/econ minor in terms of which offers more opportunities in quant marketing, and if I can do marketing from finance.
-One more question: would marketing majors be able to do strategy or ops consulting in addition to marketing consulting, or is that restricted to finance/supply chain people? ]]> Business School - MBA brandmanager12-312661 http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/business-school-mba/810528-long-post-asking-about-marketing-summary-cliffs-bottom.html