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SAP appeal chances? Am I screwed?

Billy2toneBilly2tone Posts: 5Registered User New Member
Hi. New here.

My issue is that I have too many W's. The thing is that I use the GI bill so I had no clue that I needed to maintain a certain ratio to get aid. Each time I withdrew I was obligated to repay the cost of the class to the VA. The truth is that I had no idea what SAP was.

That is until the day that I was informed that I was no-longer within standards and all my aid would be withheld pending an appeal or paying for classes myself. Needless to say, very few people in Financial aid even know all the ins and outs of the GI bill and I am learning as I go. Right now I am transferring to a 4-year and the grades that are accepted puts me at a 70% completion rate and I need to be at 75%. I have all A's except for 3 B's. I just simply had no idea that i was held to the same standard as people getting free FAFSA cash since I really do repay out of pocket whenever I withdraw with the VA.

So what are my chances of appealing this? There is no way I can pay for college on my own and that is kinda the whole reason I had to join the Army in the first place. I just have no clue how the (I didn't know) argument will play out. I simply had no idea what SAP was and that I was bound by it. I just thought my GPA was all that mattered.
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  • Billy2toneBilly2tone Posts: 5Registered User New Member
    A little more info:

    I am currently have 30 credits.
    On my transferable grades page I have 14 classes with 4 W's.

    At my old CC the number was a bit higher because of remedial courses but most of those have not transferred. So right now I am right at 70% at the new school (when I need to be at 75%) but was actually at 66% at the old school.

    i have no clue if they will look at everything or just consider what has transferred. either way it looks bad though. Ignorance is a killer.
  • Billy2toneBilly2tone Posts: 5Registered User New Member
    Darn. I was hoping to just edit my second post. Oh well, I'll put this here then.

    This is my "Unofficial" transcript from my new school I am transferring to:

    Applied Toward TECH Undergraduate Program

    ARTH 1380 Art & Society: PreHist-Gothic 3.00 3.00 A

    COMM 1332 Fund of Public Speaking 3.00 3.00 A

    ENGL 1303 First Year Writing I 3.00 3.00 A

    ENGL 1304 First Year Writing II 3.00 3.00 B

    HIST 1377 The U S To 1877 3.00 3.00 A

    HIST 1378 The U S Since 1877 3.00 3.00 B

    OCTE ELEC Occupational Tech Elec 2.00 2.00 A

    POLS 1336 US and Texas Const/Politics 3.00 3.00 B

    POLS 1337 US Govt: Congress,Pres & Crts 3.00 3.00 A

    SOC 1300 Introduction To Sociology 3.00 3.00 A

    Course Trans GPA: 0.000 Transfer Totals : 42.00 29.00


    And this is my "Transfer credit Report":


    Spring 2013 SPCH 1315 3.00 A Posted COMM 1332 3.000 A
    Spring 2013 SOCI 1301 3.00 A Posted SOC 1300 3.000 A
    Spring 2013 PHIL 2303 3.00 W Posted 0.000
    Spring 2013 HPRS 1201 2.00 A Posted OCTE ELEC 2.000 A
    Spring 2013 HIST 1302 3.00 W Posted 0.000
    Spring 2013 HIST 1302 3.00 B Posted HIST 1378 3.000 B
    Spring 2013 HIST 1301 3.00 A Posted HIST 1377 3.000 A
    Spring 2013 GOVT 2302 3.00 A Posted POLS 1337 3.000 A
    Spring 2013 GOVT 2301 3.00 B Posted POLS 1336 3.000 B
    Spring 2013 ENGL 1302 3.00 B Posted ENGL 1304 3.000 B
    Spring 2013 ENGL 1301 3.00 A Posted ENGL 1303 3.000 A
    Spring 2013 CHEM 1405 4.00 W Posted 0.000
    Spring 2013 CHEM 1305 3.00 W Posted 0.000
    Spring 2013 ARTS 1303 3.00 A Posted ARTH 1380 3.000 A
    Spring 2013 MATH 0308 3.00 W Rejected 0.000
    Spring 2013 MATH 0306 3.00 A Rejected 0.000
    Spring 2013 MATH 0308 3.00 B Rejected 0.000


    So yeah. if I go by my "unofficial" then I am just dandy.

    If I go by my transfer report then I will need to appeal.

    And if I go by my actual CC transcript then I'd be a bit lower than 70% and will need to appeal anyways. So yeah, I am just kinda flapping here and assuming the worst. My hope is to at least get granted probation since I know this won't happen again. College is fairly easy for me so long as I am aware of the rules.
  • happymomof1happymomof1 Posts: 19,139Registered User Senior Member
    Is the a Veterans advisor at your CC or at the university that you are headed to? That person should have good ideas for resolving this. You also could ask in the Veterans sub-forum. It is inside the Admissions Forum under the heading "specialty college admissions topics".

    Wishing you all the best!
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