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Old 04-02-2008, 04:04 PM   #46
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No, I understand the EFC is the money I (family) is expected to be responsible for and that I can do with pulling from savings and some loans, it's the extra unmet need that I can't see coming up with. I'm talking about a total of 40k per year with loans and savings. If they met the EFC it would be around 25k, which is almost doable.
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:39 AM   #47
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My neice is enrolled as a freshman in Clemson and is THE HAPPIEST college student ever! (we are from CT)
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:49 AM   #48
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Negotiating Music Merit $

I have offers from 2 schools I like. One has provided merit scholarship, the other only academic so far. The latter school wants me to visit again but I am wondering if I should press on the question of merit scholarship $. My preference is the second school as it has a strong program. I am gonig to be a music performance major. Ideas?
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:21 AM   #49
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In direct reply to rosebud's question, there are a number of factors involved in scholarship money regarding music performance admissions.

For strict conservatory programs like Curtis, Colburn, Juilliard, NEC, Peabody, etc. Merit scholarships are TALENT scholarships, not academically based. Amount of $ is directedly related to your audition results in comparison to the audition pool for that year. If you are at the top, you are offered the bigger package. In the case of Colburn, all admittees are full free ride, Curtis is full tuition. At other conservatory programs, it can range from full ride to a few $ thousand. Any negotiation is within a narrow range of where you fell in your audition.

For other top programs, like Rice, Oberlin, Eastman, Indiana, Michigan and other conservatory level programs within a university or LAC, the talent money again is auditioned based. While school specific criteria apply, there MAY be additional merit scholarships available based on academic standing, GPA, SAT/ACT, NMF. In some cases OOS waivers may constitute part of the package. Academic scholarship criteria is usually tiered based on certain parameters, and tend to be stringently enforced, but there may be a bit of "wiggle room" at any specific school.

Smaller LAC, university and some state programs with strong music reputations apply similar criteria.

The main focus here is that talent money awards at any performance program
are auditioned based. Knowing your own ability as reflected in your audition compared to the pecking order of other accepted applicants on your particular instrument is the key.

Students at the top have more bargaining power, those at the bottom less.

An exceptional performer, particularly on an underrepresented instrument (viola, harp, bassoon, tuba, or period instrument specialty) could have
a bit more leverage ability in some of the smaller programs by the simple law of supply and demand in relationship to how much a particular school is willing to fork over for your talent and potential versus their particular needs.

Again, any "negotiation" must consider that offers from peer institutions are the only basis for comparison, but strength of any one particular audition pool is an unknown factor.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:51 AM   #50
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This thread was started just at the time lots of acceptances & aid packages were were being received. Has anyone had any negotiating success this year?

DS's top choice has not budged on need or merit aid increases, which is quite a bit worse that his offers from comparable schools. They seem indifferent whether he matriculates or not.
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Old 04-14-2008, 04:49 PM   #51
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I've had success this year. When I received my financial aid package from WashU increased from $18,000 to $44,000. I didn't factor in the loans because I'm not willing to take any out (it would have brought my package up to 47,000). Basically, other than the 2 free rides I have to UF and Howard, this is my best FA package. It leaves only have $4,000 that we have to pay which I have more than enough in scholarship money.


Um, basically I was at WashU last weekend, made an appointment with my financial aid officer who is amazing and I told him that we really couldn't afford to pay for my schooling when I had 2 free rides. I told him some personal information that wasnt on the FAFSA and my package went up!
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Old 04-14-2008, 06:51 PM   #52
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bebegrl976--

that is really good to hear. i'm glad everything worked out for you.

i'm going up to bucknell this weekend to meet with a financial aid officer and try and up my FA (currently a $10k merit scholarship, but no financial aid money). hopefully i'll have a similar result...
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