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Old 03-28-2008, 08:34 PM   #121
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>>Ironically, the FAFSA only schools are the ones that gave the least aid.>>

Not ironic at all. FAFSA only schools tend to have less institutional money to award, and rely mostly on federal aid and limited institutional aid.
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Old 03-28-2008, 08:40 PM   #122
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Northwestern was disappointing. Their expected contribution is higher than my parents annual wages...
Is it possible that this because of large parent assets including something like a second home/property or significant equity in your home, significant assets in your name?
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Old 03-28-2008, 08:57 PM   #123
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washu only gave my friend 7000 in loans
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:10 PM   #124
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Loyola U in Chicago

COA: 39500
EFC: 3750
Scholarships/Grants: 16000
Loans: 10500
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:31 PM   #125
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COA: 39500
EFC: 3750
Scholarships/Grants: 16000
Loans: 10500
Very clear. Thanks.
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:52 PM   #126
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Macalester, Carleton and University of Chicago all gave us financial aid offers within a couple thousand dollars of each other and very close to our EFC. WashU wants us to pay about $10,000 more than our EFC. We'll ask WashU to review the numbers, but we have shifted our focus away from WashU due to the figures we were sent.
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Old 03-28-2008, 10:33 PM   #127
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University of Illinois at Urbana--there's was HORRENDOUS. I got no merit aid whatsoever

Federal Work Study $3,000.00
Fed Direct Parent PLUS $29,146.00
Fed Direct Loan Subsidized $3,500.00
Univ. Loan-Pennell, Carter $2,000.00
OSFA Non-Resident T/W $1,552.00

I don't know why I got a Non-Resident Tuition Waver because I'm an American citizen. But yeah, they basically wanted me to take out 40k a year in loans.
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Old 03-28-2008, 11:03 PM   #128
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I was devasted when Brown offered me $398.32.
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Old 03-28-2008, 11:16 PM   #129
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Kenyon's total award was OK, but the merit aid effectively reducing need based aid dollar for dollar angered us, so they will get rejected.
Treeman, that's how the system works! The schools give you aid to meet your need. If they have given you merit aid already, then you have LESS need. Except for some very few state schools that offer full-rides plus books, etc for NM scholars, schools don't give you more money than the formulas say you "need" (and many of them give you less!). Maybe now that you understand that this is how almost ALL the schools package aid, you will stop being angered and start being grateful that they are offering you any money at all!
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:41 AM   #130
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Ohio State.

supposed to be my financial safety (in state). EFC of about 6000

Merit = 2.4 k
Loan = 3.5 k

They didnt even come close with loans. What a joke.
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Old 03-29-2008, 05:55 AM   #131
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Tokenadult,what are you doing with the data you're collecting?
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:16 AM   #132
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I applied to case western because i read that they are extremely generous with need based aid.

Case COE 50000

My EFC is 2000
Case scholarship 22000
case grant (including fafsa + work study) 8000
Total loan amount 18000

18K in loans!

I got better packages with less than $5000 in loans from Carleton, Brandeis, and even Boston university!

UIUC horribly sucked but that was expected.
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:52 AM   #133
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I don't know why I got a Non-Resident Tuition Waver because I'm an American citizen. But yeah, they basically wanted me to take out 40k a year in loans.

Your being a citizen has nothing to do with why you got a non-resident tuition waiver. You go a non-tuition resident waiver because you are not a resident of Illinois

I hate to say this but I am just going to put it out there. From most of the posts that I am reading (especially from students) it seems that many people who posted do not have a basic understanding of financial aid.

The FAFSA does not award you money. The only thing it does is determine your eligibility for federal aid.

It is highly unlikely that you are going to get generous FA from a public state university especially if you are not a resident of that state.

Schools that use th e CSS profile will give you a different EFC than a school that only looks at information collected from the FAFSA. If you apply to a CSS profile, yes, your stepparents income, the investment property with the big mortgage that makes no return on the investment are all counted in calculating your EFC.

Most colleges are not going to cover your EFC (expected FAMILY CONTRIBUTION)

Yes, loans are considered FA and from the school's perspective they can give you loans and still have met your need.

International students are not eligible for federal aid, which is the main reason that most schools are not need blind to international students and your ability to pay is a factor in the admission process.

Cost of attendance - EFC = Demonstated need

Your demonstrated need will be met through a combination of :

Federal grant aid (if you are pell eligible)
Stafford loans (subsidized/unsubsidized)
State aid (if you qualify and the college is in the state where you are a resident
Perkins loans (if you qualify)
work study (federal work study if you qualify, employment if you are not eligible for federal work study funds)
merit money (if the school gives merit $ and you meet that school's threshold for merit money)
Institutional grant aid (schools with deeper pockets have more grant aid to give)

If the cost of attendance is 48,000 and your EFC is 45,000 it is very likely that you will get a unsub stafford loan of 3500 and the school will have met 100% of your demonstrated need.

the overwhelming majority of schools in the country do not meet 100% of your demonstrated need they gap. If there is a gap, you and your family must fill the gap the best way you can.

Yes, there is going to be a major disconnect between what they give you as an EFC and what you think you can afford to (or want to pay).

Finally, colleges don't meet your EFC (this is what you are expected to pay).

No matter how "independent" a student thinks they are and they do not need their parent's help, college is a family decision and families should run the ##s together.

On the parent's forum there is a thread 101 Things I Wish I'd Known Before the College Search

101 Things I Wish I'd Known Before the College Search
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:25 AM   #134
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>I don't know why I got a Non-Resident Tuition Waver because I'm an American citizen.>

You got this because you are not a resident of Illinois. It is an out of state tuition aid....not "out of country".

>>If there is a gap, you and your family must fill the gap the best way you can.>>

I'll take this comment about the "gap" one step further. Your FAMILY must decide whether they will pay the gap...or not.

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Old 03-29-2008, 07:33 AM   #135
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thumper1 - I guess I assumed that the FAFSA only schools might give more because I am divorced and therefore the Profile schools are capturing four incomes in making their determinations while the FAFSA schools are only using two. Obviously I was wrong about that, but that's where the statement came from.
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