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Best chemistry department?

chemist333chemist333 Posts: 6Registered User New Member
edited August 2010 in Graduate School
Hi!

I'm an undergraduate chemistry student form Austria and I'm thinking of going to an US ivy league school for graduate study.

I didn't find any useful department statistics on the web, so I'd like to ask whether someone knows which universities are best in chemistry at graduate level.

Thanks for your help!
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  • AlexandreAlexandre Posts: 21,764Super Moderator Senior Member
    The way I would rank the top graduate programs in Chemistry:

    IN A LEAGUE OF ITS OWN
    University of California-Berkeley

    EXCEPTIONAL
    California Institute of Technology
    Harvard University
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    Stanford University

    VERY GOOD
    Columbia University
    Cornell University
    University of California-Los Angeles
    University of Chicago
    University of Illinois- Urbana Champaign
    University of Wisconsin-Madison
    Yale University

    GOOD
    Indiana University-Bloomington
    Johns Hopkins University
    Northwestern University
    Ohio State University
    Pennsylvania State University
    Purdue University-West Lafayette
    Princeton University
    Rice University
    Texas A&M
    University of California-Irvine
    University of California-San Diego
    University of California-Santa Barbara
    University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    University of Minnesota-Twin Cities
    University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
    University of Pennsylvania
    University of Rochester
    University of Texas-Austin
    University of Washington

    I am sure I am missing a couple, but it's a good start. You obviously want took at each department closely to see which one fits your interests and your needs the best.
  • joevjoev Posts: 2,924- Senior Member
    No U of M on that list Alexandre? Maybe you are truly a partial observer LOL
  • AlexandreAlexandre Posts: 21,764Super Moderator Senior Member
    Fret not JOEV, I decided to add another group (the GOOD), because many decent programs, including Princetonl, Rice, Michigan Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Penn and (dig this, Tosu), are worth looking into.
  • thiticalcrinkinthiticalcrinkin Posts: 213Registered User Junior Member
    From what I've seen on departmental rankings by the National Research Council you have some misplaced schools:

    UPenn is considerably stronger in chemistry than Yale or Columbia (considered by the NRC to be 52 and 50 respectively). There are also a surprisingly large number of public schools in chemistry rankings including Oklahoma, Florida State, Florida, Georgia Tech, Arizona, South Carolina, and Southern California.
  • chemist333chemist333 Posts: 6Registered User New Member
    Unfortunately, I am new in this forum and the email reply didn't work so I am very late to say thanks for helping me!
  • pharmDstudentpharmDstudent Posts: 72Registered User Junior Member
    University of Southern California is a private school, thiticalcrinkin.
  • thiticalcrinkinthiticalcrinkin Posts: 213Registered User Junior Member
    That is true...I always forget that UCLA is public and USC is private.

    Thanks for the correction
  • rich12345rich12345 Posts: 15- New Member
    BTW, Alexandre -- It's THE Ohio State University ;)
  • Red&GoldRed&Gold Posts: 39Registered User Junior Member
    Chemist133,

    UC Berkeley is THE school for Chemistry. Alexandre's rankings were right on the money. There are several excellent, but if you wanted to attend a school that is insanely renown for their Chemistry research it's Berkeley. They discovered at least 8 elements and have been internationally regarded as the leader for several decades.
  • arcobisharcobish Posts: 5Registered User New Member
    I keep seeing UC-Berkeley as the best graduate program in the opinions of most...do you think that also applies for undergraduate? I'm very interested in Berkeley, but I can't tell if it's a school where all of the funding and attention is placed solely in the graduate program.
  • Sam LeeSam Lee Posts: 9,449Registered User Senior Member
    I'd put Northwestern "very good" and Yale "good" instead of the other way around. Northwestern's inorganic chemistry is very strong.
  • kihylekihyle Posts: 307Registered User Junior Member
    i think Caltech is better than UCB in training PhD chemists - just take a survey of which department produces most people who go into academia later on in chemistry and you'll see that Caltech beats UCB even though they graduate less people

    UCB has a much greater population, so granted that so many professors and students spend their research days at UCB there have to be more discoveries, papers, more science going on - but that is on the bulk level

    on a per person basis, Caltech gives a better individual training and produces more independent thinkers than UCB
  • AlexandreAlexandre Posts: 21,764Super Moderator Senior Member
    Kihyle, how do you figure that Caltech produces more "independent thinkers" than Cal? Caltech is obviously an amazing university, in some ways, the best university in the nation. But in many other ways, Cal is better than Caltech. Overall, I would say they are pretty equal schools that are equally capable of developing and cultivating brilliant minds.
  • Sam LeeSam Lee Posts: 9,449Registered User Senior Member
    US News PhD ranking:
    1 University of California–Berkeley 5.0
    2. California Institute of Technology 4.9
    Harvard University (MA) 4.9
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.9
    5. Stanford University (CA) 4.8
    6. Scripps Research Institute (CA) 4.5
    University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign 4.5
    8. Columbia University (NY) 4.4
    Cornell University (NY) 4.4
    University of Wisconsin–Madison 4.4
    11. University of California–Los Angeles 4.3
    12. Northwestern University (IL) 4.2
    University of Texas–Austin 4.2
    14. Princeton University (NJ) 4.1
    University of Chicago 4.1
    University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill 4.1
    Yale University (CT) 4.1
  • Sam LeeSam Lee Posts: 9,449Registered User Senior Member
    Specialties ranking according to US News (ranked in 2002)
    Analytic:
    1. University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill
    2. Purdue University–West Lafayette (IN)
    3. University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign
    4. Indiana University–Bloomington
    5. Iowa State University
    Inorganic:
    1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    2. California Institute of Technology
    3. Northwestern University (IL)
    4. University of California–Berkeley
    5. University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign
    Organic:
    1. Harvard University (MA)
    2. Scripps Research Institute (CA)
    3. University of California–Berkeley
    4. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    5. California Institute of Technology
    Physical:
    1. University of California–Berkeley
    2. California Institute of Technology
    3. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    4. Stanford University (CA)
    5. Harvard University (MA)
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