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ARWU2008

Really not much change from last year. Top 20 are:

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Berkeley
4. Cambridge
5. MIT
6. Caltech
7. Columbia
8. Princeton
9. Chicago
10. Oxford
11. Yale
12. Cornell
13. UCLA
14. UCSD
15. Penn
16. University of Washington
17. University of Wisconsin - Madison
18. UCSF
19. Tokyo University
20. Johns Hopkins

wowowow

is that undergrad rankings???

Or is it grad.. then it makes sense for Yale being so low. Otherwise it does not. Why is UW madison so high?

Duke is also very low... AHHHH... so many contradictory rankings!!

Carnegie Mellon also very low

Wow, Brown univ. got slaughtered at 71...someone tell me what is going on..so they look at COMPLETELY new crietarias and even if they do should Brown be that low?

Sligh_Anarchist

Those are some crazy rankings...

ken285

International rankings tend to weigh research heavily.

Doesn't UW-Madison get the most funding for research in the country? Brown is pretty much an undergrad focused school, isn't it?

I don't think these rankings are outrageous.

UCBChemEGrad

Read the ranking criteria:
field

Any ranking with UCSF on the list is not exclusively "undergrad".

UCBChemEGrad

field

Top 10 in Natural Sciences and Mathematics:
1. Harvard
2. Berkeley
3. Princeton
4. Caltech
5. Cambridge
6. MIT
6. Stanford
8. Tokyo
9. Oxford

Engineering & Technology:
1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Illinois
4. Berkeley
5. Michigan
6. Texas
7. Carnegie Mellon
8. Georgia Tech
9. Penn State
10. UC San Diego

Life & Agricultural Sciences:
1. Harvard
2. MIT
3. UCSF
4. Washington
5. Stanford
6. Texas Southwestern Medical Center
7. Columbia
8. Cambridge
9. Rockefeller
10. Wisconsin

Clinical Medicine & Pharmacy:
1. Harvard
2. UCSF
3. Washington
4. Johns Hopkins
5. Columbia
6. UCLA
7. Texas Southwestern Medical Center
8. Michigan
9. Karolinska Institute
10. U Pittsburgh

Social Sciences:
1. Harvard
2. U Chicago
3. Columbia
4. Stanford
5. Berkeley
6. MIT
7. Princeton
8. U Penn
9. Yale
10. Michigan

rd31

These are essentially science/engineering [research] rankings, and not much more...

lfecollegeguy

why is cornell not even top 10 for engineering and technology?

Bacchanalia

The crazy Chinese are at it again with their singular focus on math/science/engineering departments and individual award winners in those fields.

ken285

oops....misread

20LEGEND

How can Berkeley possibly be below UIUC for Engineering & Tech?

rd31

THES is a better representation of breadth and reputation, as it is largely based on international peer assessment of graduate programs (without leaving out Arts and Humanities). This ranking is really just a science/engineering *research* ranking that does not take into account the size of an institution. (With Berkeley/Harvard/Stanford's sheer size, of course they will have more citations, alumni, research, etc. than their smaller peers.)

Use this for what it is: a science/engineering research output ranking.

kwu

I love how Harvard has "100" in every category. IT IS THE GOLD STANDARD BY WHICH EVERY OTHER SCHOOL IS MEASURED!

Bourne

Which implies that Harvard is better than the rest at those respective fields??

Ryan1119

Guys, the rankings are based on academic or research performance. Of course it favors math/science/engineering departments.