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Old 05-14-2012, 12:48 PM   #1
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USAMO and College Admissions

Hi everyone,
Does making USAMO almost guarantee an admission to top colleges?

[probably not, but I'd like to know to what extent it does]
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:51 PM   #2
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It's a nice accomplishment at the national level. We've seen that IMO doesn't even guarantee admission though.
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:38 PM   #3
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Nothing "guarantees" admission-- not winning Intel, playing at Carnegie Hall, being in the Olympics--but Harvard like to see that an applicant is passionate and has married passion with ability and demonstrated excellence-- USAMO is one way to do so. But USAMO by itself is insufficient --Now if one was the Gold medal winner of the IMO---that--that will make a reader sit up and take notice--but not even that guarantees admissions.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:11 AM   #4
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I made USAMO but got waitlisted at Harvard/Northwestern and rejected from Yale/UPenn/Stanford, though I did get into UChicago, Cornell, and Dartmouth.

I don't know anyone else who has made USAMO because it's so rare.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:22 AM   #5
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Winning Intel is a different story, Etondad.


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Old 05-15-2012, 10:31 AM   #6
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Etondad, as I mentioned in my post I realize that nothing guarantees admission.

I want to know whether making USAMO would be better than, say, attending MIT Primes or taking linear algebra and complex analysis in high school.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:39 PM   #7
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USAMO doesn't guarantee admission but it certainly boosts your application; particularly if you make it more than once and do well and maybe advance to MOP.

And yeah, winning Intel might be the trump card of awards.
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:51 PM   #8
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I made USAMO but got waitlisted at Harvard/Northwestern and rejected from Yale/UPenn/Stanford, though I did get into UChicago, Cornell, and Dartmouth.

I don't know anyone else who has made USAMO because it's so rare.
This is what happens when Northwestern hires Princeton's old Dean of Admission.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:16 AM   #9
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everliving48: "Does making USAMO almost guarantee an admission to top colleges?"

everliving48: "Etondad, as I mentioned in my post I realize that nothing guarantees admission."

But that said, those are all nice accomplishments, if you can tie it all together. If you can't, well, they're still nice accomplishments. Anyway, they tend to be fairly correlated. There will be more than a few applicants with USAMO, advanced coursework, *and* MIT RSI (or primes, whatever that is). History shows they're not all going to get in. And why would you trade off among them based on a hypothetical admissions advantage, instead of which excites you more?
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:31 PM   #10
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I made USAMO but got waitlisted at Harvard/Northwestern and rejected from Yale/UPenn/Stanford, though I did get into UChicago, Cornell, and Dartmouth.

I don't know anyone else who has made USAMO because it's so rare.
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Did you make USAMO in 2011?

To apply for colleges in 2012, qualifying for USAMO in 2011 is best.
To qualify for USAMO in 2010 but not in 2011 doesn't look good.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:46 AM   #11
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I qualified for USAMO in 2010.

Last year I did the AMC and qualified for AIME, but then I was out of town for both of the testing dates due to spring break and science fair. I explained all of that in my application, though I can see how they still might not have liked it.

Either way I don't care because I like Dartmouth and that's where I'm going.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:12 AM   #12
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Most USAMO people I know have gone to HPSMC (C = Caltech), (H, M, C, S, P, in order) but there are a couple I know at Berkeley, and I have heard of others going to many other colleges. I started a thread about this in the College Search & Selection board.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:39 PM   #13
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According to my son, there seems --at least in 55-- to be a real division between the Olympiad and the advanced college course types-- he can even tell by looking at their proofs which of the two camps classmates come from. Now he is Olympiad trained and has a prejudice (and admits it is a prejudice...) toward that background, but both do very well indeed in higher mathematics.

bobtheboy--soon you may have to add Williams to that list as I saw that they beat out even Princeton in the Putnam (came in 10th). Their math department is amazing--my D will be going there in the fall so I have been watching them for the past few months and have been very impressed.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:33 AM   #14
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^^ Etondad, what is the division between the Olympiad and the advanced college course types? And for those who are both, on which side of the division do they end up?
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:18 PM   #15
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I'll ask him -- he has mentioned it to me on several occasions, but I'll ask him to be more specific (actually he has but I can't recall it with sufficient clarity to repeat it here). And I'll ask him about those who have both...

He is traveling for a few days so I'll post once I speak with him...
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