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05-08-2008, 08:58 PM
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#31 | | New Member
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| I believe that is because many competing schools also increased their financial aid amount. |
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05-08-2008, 09:02 PM
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#32 | | Junior Member
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| Also, I think a lot of kids are not afraid to turn down Harvard for a "lesser" school that they prefer ... |
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05-08-2008, 10:20 PM
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#33 | | Senior Member
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| Also, harvard eliminated SCEA, where its yield is around 90%. Perhaps SCEA + this initiative (or maybe if they had made the 120 - 180K percentage less than 10) would have driven the yield up into the high 80s...but this is really good news if you just look at their RA yield in past years being 70%. |
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05-09-2008, 01:12 AM
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#34 | | Member
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| Is anyone surprised that Harvard's yield is actually lower than last year despite having record low admit rates and the best financial aid in the world?
A lot of people were predicting 90%... |
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05-09-2008, 08:09 AM
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| harvard yield around 78% |
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05-09-2008, 08:12 AM
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#36 | | Member
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| also, it says they're accepting 150-175 students off the waitlist this year!
Congrats guys! |
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05-09-2008, 08:22 AM
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#37 | | Senior Member
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| Well, it's not that much different - not much difference between 79% and 78.5%. |
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05-09-2008, 09:00 AM
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#38 | | Junior Member
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| u guys have to remember that the reported 78 percent yield can only result when assuming that 100 percent of the 150 wailistees accept the offer. So at this point w/o the waitlists, the yield is around 75-76 percent. Well its still damn high tho haha |
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05-09-2008, 09:07 AM
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| It is very unlikely that 100 percent of the 150 waitlistees would accept the offer. |
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05-09-2008, 09:19 AM
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#40 | | Senior Member
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| timeless: I don't understand. Then the reported yield is meaningless if they were to extrapolate the data. Why 78.5%? In fact, why not just say 1%? The 78.5% is clearly based on the number of original admits who accepted the admissions offer.
Ijmom: I agree with you on that. It is very unlikely that 100% of WL admits will take up the offer, but I think the yield of WL admits will be higher, simply due to the fact that if you remained on the waitlist, it's probably because you wanted to attend Harvard if given the chance. |
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05-09-2008, 11:25 AM
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#41 | | Senior Member
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| Very interesting. One of the few industries in which a glut of clients can pose a potential catastrophe, so the corporation is "breathing a sigh of relief" when a sufficient number of their potential customers decline! My D was accepted RD at both H and Y this year - one brief call and one letter from H during April, but calls, letters, e-mails, t-shirts every few days from Y. Clearly, H was concerned about too many students, Y was bracing for too few. |
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05-09-2008, 11:32 AM
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#42 | | Senior Member
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| Here's something that, if true, is fascinating about the H waitlist. I've read in the past on CC that the waitlisted students are not in any priority order; they're there to provide a pool of talent from which H admissions can draw to maintain the balance of skills in their handcrafted class. The next person who backs out doesn't open a spot for the "top" person on the waitlist. The loss of a soprano opens up a spot for a soprano, the loss of a debater makes them seek another debater, etc. Can anyone confirm that that's true? |
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05-09-2008, 11:34 AM
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#43 | | New Member
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| I don't know if that is necessary true. There are plenty of people who went onto the waitlist merely because it was a click away, literally. It was a means of keeping their options open in case they did have a change of heart. I'd say that most people who get off the waitlist would go, but there's a rather larger number who wouldn't merely because clicking "yes, i'll remain on the waitlist" isn't exactly the ultimate manifestation of desire. |
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05-09-2008, 01:42 PM
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#44 | | Senior Member
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| ^^ Having too few is a much easier problem to solve - just keeping pumping the handle on the the waitlist well until you've got what you want. Having too many will create problems that will last all year. And having WAY too many will put the school in a world of hurt. |
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05-09-2008, 02:30 PM
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#45 | | Member
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| gadad,
I posted previously this comment. My son is a new admit and his very good friend is on the waitlist for Harvard. I was doing some searching for him trying to find out what the waitlist was all about at H, because schools do it differently (according to a Stanford adcom). I googled lots of different titles into the search heading and found an article from H that stated this. Maybe it was an old crimson issue. I'm not sure. I will try to find it again and post where I found it.
Best of luck to those waiting |
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