College Confidential
» CC HOME » FORUM HOME

  College Confidential > College Admissions and Search > Ivy League > Harvard University
New User

Welcome to College Confidential!
The leading college-bound community on the web
Join for FREE now, and start talking with other members, weighing in on community polls, and more.

Also, by registering and logging in you'll see fewer ads and pesky welcome messages (like this one)!
Discussion Menu
»Discussion Home
»Help & Rules
»Latest Posts
»NEW! CampusVibe™
»Stats Profiles
Top Forums
»College Chances
»College Search
»College Admissions
»Financial Aid
»SAT/ACT
»Parents
»Colleges
»Ivy League
Main CC Site
»College Confidential
»College Search
»College Admissions
»Paying for College
Sponsors
SuperMatch - The Future of College Search!
CampusVibe - Almost As Good As A Campus Visit!
Harvard University
Massachusetts Hall
Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138
School Resources

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-24-2005, 06:06 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,062
WHOA! So maybe I AM confused on hooks.

Is being a minority (Hispanic, Puerto Rican) a hook?

How can you right a diversity essay on that?
apfreak is offline   Reply   
Old 06-24-2005, 06:12 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,062
Is a hook being a MINORITY AND being an applicant from the SOUTH??
apfreak is offline   Reply   
Old 06-24-2005, 06:21 PM   #18
sinbad
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I have several hooks, a main one and another to diversify from the asian norm.

Main: Medicine/Science

RSI this summer (maybe, i got accepted)
Westinghouse Regional Semi
City of Hope Internship (8 hrs/day during summer)
Tons of other classes/ECs

Other:

Asian Eagle Scout w/ palms
Asian Water Polo Player (several awards/captain)
Asian interested in minoring in Eng/Economics
Very well-rounded?
  Reply   
Old 06-24-2005, 06:23 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,062
When you say diversity card essay do you mean internationally? I am an URM so what could I write about. Now I moved from NYC to tampa Florida and the experience was TOTALLY (seriously) different!!!!! Is there something I can relate this to school and diversity of idea and diversity? Any IDEAS????
apfreak is offline   Reply   
Old 06-24-2005, 06:24 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,062
Medicine and science majors are HOOKS in Harvard??? That would be my plans as well.
apfreak is offline   Reply   
Old 06-24-2005, 07:34 PM   #21
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 394
Science/premedicine are hardly underrepresented tracks at most universities. The hooks are what sinbad did to further his learning in these areas (RSI is an extremely selective and prestigious summer program, for example).
blah1111 is offline   Reply   
Old 06-24-2005, 09:01 PM   #22
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,822
True hooks will differentiate you from the crowd. Half of the apps will be science/math and will be very, very good. Siemens will help as will RSI. URM is a hook, international is not. There are thousands of internationals for a few slots. True hooks are Olympic athletes, recruited athletes, national science winners, celebrities, high stat URMs especially from deprived backgrounds. Under-represented states are a minor hook if you have competitive stats otherwise.
bandit_TX is offline   Reply   
Old 06-25-2005, 12:44 AM   #23
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: So. California
Posts: 1,053
Bandit is right about the true hooks. For example, I know of six students in our suburban/rural county who will attend Harvard as freshmen in the fall. Their hooks are:

Three are Hispanic, valedictorians, first-generation college, with farm-worker immigrant parents, English as a second language, from underperforming public high schools. All three, from different towns, participated in a special program that helps these types of students become future leaders. Hook = ethnicity/family background and income.

Two (twins) are state-ranked cross country runners and valedictorians from an average public high school. Hook = athlete.

One is a double legacy (both of her older sisters attend Harvard) as well as a valedictorian from a private girls school. Hook = legacy.

Another student in our town turned down Harvard (as well as Stanford, Georgetown and many more) for USC. He, too, is Hispanic, first-generation college, valedictorian, but not English as a second language, and is from an average public high school. Did not participate in the future leaders program. Hook = ethnicity/family income, background.

The things that "hook" one in at Harvard seem to have little to do with community service, test scores, grades, coursework, awards, or even geography, although those are a foundation for having a solid application. Harvard has institutional needs that require it to use diversity, athleticism, legacy, long-established ties with certain private high schools, and socio-economic status as trump cards when selecting a class.

The six students will do wonderfully at Harvard and are very deserving of their acceptances.

(disclaimer: S was waitlisted at Harvard this year and later rejected. He did not fit into any of the above categories. National recognition in his area of interest was a mini-hook in that it got him waitlisted, but it was not enough of one to put him ahead of any of the six students above.)
momof2inca is offline   Reply   
Old 06-25-2005, 10:16 AM   #24
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 511
I don't think accomplishments in academics or ECs could be considered a hook. Actually, I dont think ANY trait that you've got and that even 10 other applicants have is considered a hook. A hook is something that makes you unique. If you're from Alabama and let's say 200 people from Alabama apply, then, compared to them, you're not at all special.
However, if you're from Alabama, but you were born in let's say Conneticut and then you moved to Cali when you were 15, then that could be considered a hook. Because it's very unlikely that anyone has had the exact same experience as you.
To bandit_TX, I agree that being an international is not a hook unto itself. But for me, moving a lot is. No one applying to Harvard this fall will have had the same experience as me with regards to diversity. SO, diversity IS a hook while being an international, or from Masachussets, North Carolina or Timbuktu isn't.
Thus, having 2400 or 1600 on your SAT is NOT a hook. It DOES not make you unique (unless you happen to be the only one with 2400 applying to Harvard which is HIGHLY unlikely).
However, if you have a combination of distinguishing qualities that many applicants have (eg. 2400 on SAT + valedictorian + 1000 hrs of community service + first generation college) THEN that IS a hook.
You might disagree, but that's what I think.
crimson4me is offline   Reply   
Old 06-25-2005, 10:51 AM   #25
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 28
I always thought a hook was something unique about you that made you stand out...my "hook" was something very academic, but I believe it worked in my application since I was eventually accepted...I mean, the only non-academic things I had going was culture (first-generation American, but family from India) and large family. And you can't get in just because you gotta lot of siblings. That being said, I was rather surprised that the committee "bit" my hook...I don't want to say what it was, because it's a giveaway...
policymaker is offline   Reply   
Old 06-25-2005, 11:09 AM   #26
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,793
Can achievement in sports be considered a hook? For example, being nationally ranked in table tennis, perhaps?
gxing is offline   Reply   
Old 06-25-2005, 11:53 AM   #27
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 511
policymaker, I'm sure a combination of your achievements, culture and family situation was your hook. Not just the academic thing
crimson4me is offline   Reply   
Old 06-25-2005, 01:03 PM   #28
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 28
But think about other Asian kids who apply - I mean, there are several who I know who had stellar ECs who were rejected outright - I felt terrible telling them I'm going to Harvard when they asked because they were more deserving than I was to an objective observer...most of them aced me on SAT by at least 50 pts to boot. I think it further underscores the idea that you are not in control of your application's future...
policymaker is offline   Reply   
Old 06-25-2005, 01:51 PM   #29
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 511
The SAT (believe it or not!) plays a minor role compared to WHO YOU ARE (your ECs, essays, etc reveal this).
crimson4me is offline   Reply   
Old 06-25-2005, 02:58 PM   #30
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 28
eh...I've heard so much about what "actually" is the most important part of your application that I don't know what it actually is. Oh well...I will trust that the reader is the only one who actually knows for certain...
policymaker is offline   Reply   
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:15 PM.




Copyright 2001-2011, Hobsons, Inc., All Rights Reserved