People that got into Mudd, where else did you get into? - Page 3

Muddslinger · 10-31-2009, 04:36 PM

SimpleLife - I may be overthinking this.. post #24

LongPrime · 10-31-2009, 05:23 PM

@Colorado_mom
DS's decision. Part of his decision had to do with size and distance. He did not visit either or any schools. Visual and perceived "feel" were not considerations.

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@simplelife
DS had plenty of time doing other things than just engineering. His classmates likewise had plenty of time. I think that they had very good focus and time management skills. All of them were bright and accomplished. Never ever call your child Sun-Weds, 5pm-3am, they are too engrossed in their studies.

SimpleLife · 11-01-2009, 01:50 AM

Oh my gosh! Don't call between 5pm and (THREE) 3am?! Three a.m.? That's some serious studying time!

SimpleLife · 11-01-2009, 01:57 AM

Thanks, Muddslinger. I saw your other posts. Fascinating. Very well-said, and very enlightening. I'll bet a lot of people, self included, will find your comments quite helpful. I appreciate your honesty!

rocketDA · 11-01-2009, 01:08 PM

"Oh my gosh! Don't call between 5pm and (THREE) 3am?! Three a.m.? That's some serious studying time!"

For the last year in a half I was up til 4 or 5AM most nights. 3AM felt like a good nights sleep.

azalia · 11-01-2009, 04:37 PM

It's a real advantage if you are a parent on the East Coast. If I need to reach my Mudder, I can email him when I am getting up for work and he is wrapping up his work for the night. :-)

colorado_mom · 11-01-2009, 05:11 PM

Uh oh... 3am? 4am? 5am? Please tell me there are not many 8am classes. I know it's a short communte from the dorms to class, but 2 or 3 hours of sleep is not enough....

geek_mom · 11-01-2009, 05:48 PM

co_mom -- Here's a link to this semester's course schedule for all the 5Cs. https://portal.claremontmckenna.edu/...urse_Schedule/

Close to 60 of the frosh are in an 8am MWF class right now, but there was room in later sections of the same class for those who wished to drop/add.

My Mudder hits the sack by 2am most nights and is trending earlier. His roommate tends to turn in closer to midnight. Like many Mudders, mine sleeps in until lunchtime on the weekends. Fatigue is an issue, I think especially for those in the inner dorms because social events seem to start ramping up around 9-10pm.

I think fatigue is just part of college life to an extent, especially in Engineering majors -- Lord knows I could have packed a weekend trip in the bags under my eyes when I commuted to my in-state public as an undergrad. But yes, "voluntary sleep deprivation" definitely happens at Mudd.

threefifthsc · 11-02-2009, 12:26 AM

Currently, the only 8am frosh classes are chem (MWF) and physics recitation (Tu). Half the sections meet at 8, and half a 9, so about 100 frosh have 8am chem. I think there are 3 sections of physics at 8, and that comes out to about 60 frosh. I have no idea what the overlap is between the two groups.

I don't know very many frosh who are up until 4 or 5am every day. I think the hour you go to bed depends mainly on study habits - if you have good study habits, you'll be fine. Personally, I don't have the best study habits in the world (I'm easily distracted by Facebook or "Gmail - Inbox(1)"), but I can count on one hand the number of nights I was up past 3am (and at least two of those were the night before 8am chem).

As far as I've heard, non-frosh generally have fewer 8am classes. They don't want 8am classes...frosh don't have much of a choice. Perhaps an upperclassman can provide more information here.

SimpleLife · 11-02-2009, 08:50 AM

threefifthsc, you said you can count on one hand the number of nights you were up past 3am. Can I ask what time you usually do turn in, on a typical weeknight? geek_mom said social events start ramping up at around 9-10pm. On weeknights? Are those events outside of the dorms, so that people who want to be studying or sleeping can do so?

Are there plenty of other students who keep a more, idk, "normal" schedule -- like in bed by 10:30-11pm? Or is this really a campus culture thing -- social events and late, late study nights for most?

The son who's interested in Mudd would not be interested in late nights. He's got excellent study habits, is not easily distracted, and has time management down to a science. Could a kid like that be in bed by 11 most of the time? And are there more than a few others who WANT to turn in "early" like that?

Daniel12 · 11-02-2009, 01:55 PM

I'd estimate that about 70% of us turn in between 12 and 2am, so 10:30-11 is earlier than most, but he wouldn't really be an outlier. Some areas tend to be noisy past 11 (even on weekdays), but if he says that he's an early sleeper on the room matching form, they should find a quiet place for him.

threefifthsc · 11-03-2009, 12:35 AM

I would fall into the group of people that goes to bed between 12 and 2am. My roommate tends to go to bed at least an hour earlier than I do. It's definitely possible to get to bed by 11 most nights if you manage your time well and aren't involved in a huge amount of extracurriculars (1st year fall semester...being a frosh, I can't speak for the other years).

I think the social events mentioned are primarily weekend events, though on some weeknights there are things like watching movies in the dorm courtyard. I've found that those sorts of things are fairly easy to avoid if you want to work or sleep. Weekend events tend to be louder, and I've never had trouble with noise on weekend nights, but I happen to live in a dorm that blocks out outside sound pretty well.

That said, I think that late nights are definitely a part of campus culture. For me, a lot of the time that goes to "waste" is time spent hanging out with friends (we sit in the dorm lounge and do homework together), so most of the time it's worth it to me to stay up a little later to socialize rather than sit in my room and work by myself all the time. However, I'm quite confident that there are many people who sleep earlier and are satisfied with their social lives. It's often said that from school, sleep, and socializing, we have to choose two. At least on a small scale, there's always some sort of trade-off, so I think it's really a matter of what each student chooses to put first.

ScoutMom · 11-11-2009, 05:45 PM

Son chose Mudd over Stanford, Caltech, CMU, Cornell, U Chicago, U Rochester, + others
He has done well at HMC and most likely will be admitted to a great grad school.
Funny how perspectives change. When making his choice he was most influenced by the fact that HMC has no grad students and that the professors main focus is on the students. Now that he is applying to grad school, he seems to be leaning toward schools that either do not have any undergrads or have mostly grad students.

Miru · 11-13-2009, 04:36 AM

Another current Mudd student

I also got into University of Virginia, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, CU-Boulder, and Colorado School of Mines. I was rejected by MIT.

My sleep schedule is pretty dependent on the day of the week. MTThSa its 12-1, SuTh its 2-4 due to homework deadlines, and Friday its almost always 3 or later(why not?). And if I get behind in just one class all of those times move back an hour. My roommates somehow manage to get to bed at around 12 every single night. I guess they all take school and sleep more seriously than I do, and therefore are just better at getting both (they all made the dean's list last semester). I'm definitely a night owl, and I'm quite easily distracted, so its hard for me to get the right amount of sleep even though my social life really isn't that much more interesting than theirs, nor am I doing a whole lot more extracurriculars. I am getting a lot more sleep than I did as a freshman though - during pass/fail I pretty much decided that sleep was worthless and then developed horrible habits. Living with people who get to sleep at a reasonable hour this year has definitely been beneficial.

Very few people are still going to bed at 10:30 by the end of their first semester here. A couple of my roommates pulled it off for the first month of last year*, but now even they find it strange to be in bed so early. This isn't just a Mudd thing from what I hear - most college students sleep somewhat later than they did in high school.

*Note that they did this while living in East, which is right across from North, which is one of the dorms that plays loud music on weekdays. With earplugs and a little adaptation, one can learn to sleep through surprising amounts of noise and light.

Sorry about the rambling...I'm going to go sleep instead of bothering to edit this

maruhan2 · 11-17-2009, 02:14 AM

Do you guys take naps??
I'd sleep late and take naps