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Old 03-11-2008, 10:53 PM   #31
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Find one thing your really good at like history or math and then just use those classesas an oppertunitty to kick the s*** out of them intellectually, make sure the rest of yourclass is in on your jokeso you don't= look like a prick.
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:59 AM   #32
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I only find it annoying when people brag about doing more work then you...and then make up excuses about why you got a higher grade...grrr.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:30 AM   #33
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Honestly grades do not mean crap. I'm a 4.0 student, #1 in my class (I share the rank with 4 other people, my school doesn't do weighted GPA but all the people i share the rank with are my friends and we all take AP and honors) it has nothing to do with intelligence just hard work and effort. People say i'm an overachiever because i care a lot about maintaining my perfect GPA but i sort of have to to do good. Intelligence is relative like pretty much everything else in life lol. I don't think that i'm as smart as people think i am, definitely not like some of my classmates, but i guess some people equate grades with intelligence. I think jealously is an inherent trait. I know i can't help but envy some of those perfect people even if they are super nice and are my closest friends. That raises the question do you hate someone for who they are or what they do? Does Islamic Fundamentalists hate us (Americans) for who we are or what we do with our foreign policies? haha alright too much CWP for me.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:16 AM   #34
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Hahah, I think everyone has that kind of person in their life. Really.
We have an actual group of girls at our school ( i call them "ivies") who constantly sit around and talk about how they just can't wait until the recieve their acceptance letters from Princeton. I find it funny, and I just laugh it off. But yes, I feel ya.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:28 PM   #35
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DESTINOS, great nick!
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:28 PM   #36
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There are a couple of annoying overachievers in my grade. One of them is particularly bad. She has cried twice (!!) during hard tests. She has argued with our physics teacher, in the middle of class, about his teaching style. She patronizes people who get higher marks than her because thinks it must be a mistake or something.

Worst of all she incessantly asks questions. Ridiculous questions. One class we timed her to figure out how much time we lost as a percentage of class because of her questions. Unfortunately, it ended up being a work class, but I think it was about 5%.
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:02 PM   #37
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There are a group of girls in my grade who are annoying overachievers. I am part of this group but I don't talk about my grades ect. because I'm not like that. I mean y make people feel bad or start s**t? But the others always talk about their grades ect. and cry if they get an A-. It's so annoying. They argue with teachers when they get something wrong or just because they don't like their teaching style. Despite this however our group is very popular. It makes no sense to me. Sometimes I wonder why I hang out with them, ut w/e.

So to the OP: I would just find something your really passonite about and excell at that and ignore the annoying overachievers. You seem to be doing very well as is.
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:18 PM   #38
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I know a few people like that.

The salutatorian used to be the worst- now, he's decent, but a lot better than he was. "This is so easy", "I don't see the point", "I could pass the course in my sleep", etc. Now he will say that a course is easy if it is, but he complains when work is relatively hard (he still gets 95-100%+ if there is extra credit). He's improved a lot.

The Valedictorian used to be bad too, she was accelerated a couple years in math and science and everything comes to her. Now she's a bit more of a loner but she's nice and it's not like she actively tries to make the rest of us feel inferior- it's just that her relative success makes you feel less sucessful yourself.

There are a few annoying overachievers still remaining, but most of the people I know talk normally and try not to brag, even if they are taking a courseload of APs and soaring. It's really nice. It used to be worse...
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Old 03-12-2008, 05:35 PM   #39
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"Overachieving and arrogance aren't one in the same"

My input: the problem is that overachievers do not give people any reason to assume they are not arrogant. I think it's important that in the social world, you expand your ideas and open up your mind to the people/beliefs around you. AP's, good test scores, going to the best university. It's not bad to be academically-minded and have enthusiasm for doing well in school. If your passion is mathematics or being a historical scholar, by all means follow your dreams. I myself want to go to MIT for physics/philosophy. However, I also play sports (not to say that athletes are stupid btw) and have friends from alot of different social groups. Though I'm known as the nerd who is on the basketball team, most other people can't say that. In this sense, I feel well-rounded and accomplished. And as I get older, I am starting to understand that all people are different and unique.

We get so caught up in what we do that we forget there are other people also doing what they want to do. We also don't realize that some people are not made out for college, basically the path that we say is the only one that leads to success. IT'S OK!!! It's called diversity, and it actually helps the world function properly. So no, overachieving and arrogance are not directly associated. So my question is this: why is it that overachievers are arrogant? If we look at this situation in a different light, maybe overachievers won't be so arrogant.

Another thought: if we care so much about other people's futures that we feel the need to constantly remind them of how much they are failing, why don't we tutor them or study with them? You know, it is acceptable to hang out with "stupid" people.
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Old 03-12-2008, 06:14 PM   #40
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There are no really arrogant overachievers at my school. We have about 20 people who are state-champ athletes and top scorers in AP classes and who are the sweetest people on Earth.

Of course, they're all on Oxycodon (is that what they're calling "uppers" nowadays?) or caffeine or just complete lack of sleep.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:06 PM   #41
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I don't think there's such as thing as "overachieving," really. Achievement is good; rubbing it in people's faces is bad, but has nothing to do with the achievement itself. Achieving is really only "over" achieving when it takes over someone's life and creates health/ psychological problems, or when people sacrifice tons to reach an unattainable goal... but really, most of the time the term "overachiever" is just coined by other people who can't fathom achieving the same thing. It's sort of a justification-- I'm jealous, but they're "over" achieving anyway. It's not like I need to be like that.

Which is a good opinion to have, but you wouldn't need to talk about it if you didn't feel inadequate about their achievement in the first place, lol.

Edit: "You," is the general you. Not directed to anyone.
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:05 PM   #42
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to the guy above who said anyone who gets a 36 does no work and is incredibly lazy - i disagree. i believe working hard for the past few years has given me the 36, rather than intelligence.
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:21 PM   #43
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There are two girls in my senior class that refursed to join National Honor Society because they were 'too good for it'. I mean come on... it's the best students in the united states!... talk about inflated ego!
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:31 PM   #44
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one girl who graduated last year kept bragging about how she was accepted to HYPS, but decided to go to the flagship state school because she thought "ivy-league education was overrated." her sister was fed up and posted the rejection letters on facebook. ouch
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:38 PM   #45
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UGH.

There is this kid in my Bible Lit and choir classes, and seriously, every time he opens his mouth we all just sigh and roll our eyes. I swear he never uses a word that has less than 6 syllables in it.
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