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Old 03-31-2008, 02:45 PM   #16
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i can honestly say that 99% of the kids at my school cheat. I have never cheated, but there are so few people in my grade that I can tell you that basically everyone cheats.
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:47 PM   #17
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Cono-You really think it's okay to get a grade that you didn't legitimately earned, that could later help you get into a college you don't deserve?

Well at least we know where your morals lie.

A lot of the kids at my school cheat. They get away with it a lot of the time, but sometimes they do get caught.
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:52 PM   #18
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Plus, we're not comparing it to world travesties. But we're also not saying it's perfectly fine to do, just because there are bigger things in the world that are happening. It’s like saying that a child being bullied mercilessly on a playground is no big deal, because other people have it harder. Neither is 'ok'.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:04 PM   #19
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or maybe Cono isn't being so sarcastic after all.-Just a thought.

"The sad thing is, both times when I took the SAT, I noticed people cheating on sections. And I doubt they ever were in trouble for it."

Did you report them? Students who see peers cheating, but don't report them are reinforcing the cheating that's going on."


Honestly Northstarmom, who would stop in the middle of taking an exam in which you have a limited amount of time to report cheaters? Reporting eats away a lot of time that could be spent doing quite a few problems that can in turn, make a difference in your score. I wouldn't really care whether or not one cheats on an SAT. It's not worth actually taking my time off to acknowledge and besides, I don't necessarily see it as condoning the cheating; rather just not acknowledging it because we all know snitching isn't cute in high school these days.

Overall, cheaters never prosper and unfortunately they'll just have to learn the hard way.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:48 PM   #20
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Well at least we know where your morals lie.
I fear not the judgement that comes from a rider of the high horse.

But I'm flattered that you care to know the whereabouts a random user of the internet's morals. Of course, cheating is clearly the best determinant of morals; those kids copying the last few problems on today's math homework are tomorrow's serial killers.

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Plus, we're not comparing it to world travesties.
If one didn't know any better, it could easily be construed that way if you've seen the way some users on this forum discuss it.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:53 PM   #21
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Yes, but this forum isn't about the devastations in the modern world. It's about trying to get into college, and attending college, and everything you could think about regarding college. So of course, a scandalous situation regarding college admissions is bound to be treated as a big deal, because it pertains to the subject of the website we are on.

I didn’t post this thread to get into a fight over what’s more important in the world. I posted it for others to be aware. I don’t think you understand that.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:57 PM   #22
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I was completely shocked and sickened to hear how rampant cheating has become in schools. I knew it happened, but in this amount? Ridiculous.
You said yourself it was already rampant, so I'm not sure you exactly intended to make others 'aware.'

I don't think you understand that many of these forum discussions veer far from their original topics; it's the nature of a online community of this magnitude.
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Old 03-31-2008, 04:15 PM   #23
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I didn't know how "rampant" it was, so I was "shocked".

And, if that's the case, then have fun.
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Old 03-31-2008, 04:46 PM   #24
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Honestly Northstarmom, who would stop in the middle of taking an exam in which you have a limited amount of time to report cheaters? Reporting eats away a lot of time that could be spent doing quite a few problems that can in turn, make a difference in your score.
I don't think that's how reporting cheaters on the SAT works...
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Old 03-31-2008, 05:00 PM   #25
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I'm surprised, I guess. I don't think many people at my school cheat at all, except there was a time in AP Chem when some group began to study well-graded previous-year exams in advance, so our teacher had to start making new ones. That was about all I've heard. Maybe I'm just naive?
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Old 03-31-2008, 05:19 PM   #26
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who cares?

if someone cheats it doesn't affect you
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Old 03-31-2008, 05:33 PM   #27
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Cheating is never a new thing to students. Cheaters in the long run, however, will eventually get what they deserve.
Lol no




Cheating is HUGE at my school, the teachers know it but dont care because its been so accustomed (does that make sense?) to us.

As for the SAT cheating, WHO CARES!!

Me and my friend were going to switch tests for the math section (there was like 3 people from diff schools in the classroom) and no one would've said anything, glad i decided not to because i made 680 on math =)
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Old 03-31-2008, 06:32 PM   #28
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What's the point of cheating? Tests are for you to evaluate your knowledge of the material. If you skew the measurements, don't they become completely useless?

Maybe it's just that I don't cheat and don't know anyone who does. At my college at least. And all our exams are take-home, too. I guess it's just never occurred to me as something you could do.

(Edit: Well of course to get a better grade. But then you end up at a better school and then you'll have weaker fundamentals than everyone else and you won't understand the classes as well...it's not good to bite off more than you can chew because then you end up washing out. Unless everyone else is also there because they cheated, I guess.)

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Old 03-31-2008, 09:54 PM   #29
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fizix2 couldn't have said it any better.

When I think about it, if you're an economics major and you BS'd your way through college by cheating then eventually your business (if you decide to get one) will crumble! why? Because you fooled yourself into thinking you were gaining something when you were really not. My mom always told me that whether you cheat or not, the only person you're fooling is yourself.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:31 AM   #30
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^ i second that


i hate cheating. it's so rampant though. even the kids who you wouldn't think cheat, do. it sickens me. they don't even hide it either.
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