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Old 07-08-2008, 03:00 PM   #31
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hahaha romani I've done that a few times..just turn around and let em have it.

I agree our government is just...pssh..a mess these days
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:04 PM   #32
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sAxsKy, you could fine those people anywhere though.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:10 PM   #33
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sAxsKy, that video was full of massive lolz.

It has to be fabricated though. At least, I'm *hoping* it is.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:17 PM   #34
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I mean, hopefully, for every clip in that video, there were 200 intelligent answers that they didn't use...

It was hilarious, though. XD
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:38 PM   #35
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Yeah I know lol. I must have watched that video like 30x already. It never gets old but I don't think it was fabricated because I can't imagine people publicizing how stupid they are in front of millions of viewers so it has to be legit.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:00 PM   #36
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^ Ever watch "Jay-walking" on Jay Leno? You'd like it lol
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:58 PM   #37
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and im proud to be an american, where at least i know im freeeeeeeeeeee
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:01 PM   #38
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Wow, sAxsKy, that video was... enlightening, to say the least. LOL. I actually think I know a few people like that. O_O
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:57 PM   #39
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That video was funny but depressing at the same time lol.I actually know a few people like that at my school.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:00 PM   #40
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That video was funny but depressing at the same time lol.I actually know a few people like that at my school.I sent it to a few of my friends who also ltao
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:11 PM   #41
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I just went to Spain as well, and I noticed the same behavior. I usually insisted (though subtly) that the people speak Spanish with me. I did also notice that I received much friendlier attention when I was in a smaller group than with a larger group. I think the problem isn't so much that we're Americans, but that we're tourists.

There was one time when I broke all the rules of my group and went shopping by myself, and it was one of the best experiences I had on the trip. I look convincingly Spanish, and I can speak the language reasonably well, and I noticed that the store clerks treated me very well, compared to the nasty looks I received when with a bunch of other loud Americans.

I never felt embarrassed myself about being American, but I felt embarrassed about the others in my group that were not respecting the culture to the best of their abilities. One gets much more out of a trip abroad when one can appreciate the culture.

And about the language barrier: I noticed that in Europe, people are addressed in English whether they look like they would speak English or not. I was next to two South Asian men (perhaps Indian or Indonesian) who spoke next to no English. But since they didn't look German (origin of airline), the flight attendant always addressed them in English. It's just a language that everyone knows a little and can use in emergency situations. It really wouldn't be difficult to pick up enough of even Japanese to get around within the country. The language barrier is nearly non-existent after the initial politeness and nature of the transaction has been established.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:12 PM   #42
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I went to spain and most of the time people did speak spanish to us, I never felt that people didn't like Americans either. How did the people on the street know you were American? At most of the restaurants we went to, we spoke english to the waiters, and we spoke spanish when we needed to. As long as you dont act like an ignorant American, I dont see how you could have problems
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:25 PM   #43
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This is why I'd never travel abroad with a really big group.

My mom said recently that she would pay for me to go to Italy once I graduate from college, so I figure I have four years to learn Italian. I also want to go maybe with one or two of my friends, but I'd never go in a large group.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:36 PM   #44
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No, Never. I like my country and feel that it has an honorable place as the most venerable of the modern Republics.
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:05 PM   #45
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@JBVirtuoso - Yeah, I felt more of the coldness in the larger group. In small groups it was more subtle, but in the large group people labeled us as obnoxious tourists more frequently and were less likely to be polite.

@PShap - My friends and I looked pretty conspicuous walking down the streets of Spain: All four of us are at least 5'6", three of us are blonde (not that there aren't blonde Spaniards), and we were all wearing the American uniform of T-shirts, jeans, and sneakers. It also couldn't have helped that we were conversing in English together and that we weren't always in tourist-heavy areas.

I hope we weren't acting like ignorant Americans. At least, we tried not to act like that, conscious of how obnoxious that stereotype is. We kept our voices down, spoke Spanish whenever possible, etc.
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