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06-29-2009, 06:33 PM
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#16 | | Member
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Check the rules. If grade defaulting affects semester grades, not quarter grades (or there is some other rule that accounts for their decision), there is nothing you can do. If they are wrong and grade defaulting only affects that quarter, make this clear to them. It seems to me that they believe they are following the rules, if they aren't then call them out and explain why their ruling should be changed.
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06-29-2009, 06:52 PM
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Is it just me or does the OP sound like a strange excerpt from "A Clockwork Orange"
My school sucks about this sort of thing. Like everyone else has said, if your parents keep hounding them they'll eventually fix it. Make sure they keep up with it, if they don't they figure you've given up.
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06-29-2009, 07:04 PM
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You are an excellent writer!!!! I got hooked lol
But anyways sorry about your school's administration...
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06-29-2009, 07:18 PM
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#19 | | Junior Member
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Bring some ****ed off parents into this.
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06-29-2009, 08:15 PM
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#20 | | Member
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At this point I think you are too emotional to try to work this out with the principal and vice principal anymore. Have your Mom continue to contact them in a calm manor. If they continue to not budge she needs to take it a step further, maybe that means contacting a lawyer or contacting someone on the school board.
There is a legal issue at principle here, that is that the punishment has to be on the same level as the crime. As you have correctly pointed out the amount by which your grades were dinged could make the difference between you getting into the college that you want and not getting into it. They need to find a more appropriate punishment for your tardiness.
You'll make more progress in this situation with rational arguments rather than emotional ones which is why I think you need to continue having one of your parents involved. They should not back down until this is resolved. The ramifications are too big to let this go.
| Pea had some great advice :]
It seems as if your principal and vice principal are not handling your punishment fairly. But like dunbar said, you should really check to see if grade defaults are for semester grades or quarter grades. I wouldn't recommend asking your principal or vp about this rule because they might twist it. Maybe ask your counselor or search up a student handbook (it's usually on the website or in your student planner). Be persistent, and if they are still unresponsive, it's time to bring it up a level. I wouldn't just let this matter go.
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06-29-2009, 08:19 PM
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#21 | | Junior Member
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talk to the superintendent! have your mom talk to the superintendent!!
loll my school has the same policy but my teachers are sweet and let me by if i'm only slightly late.
good luck!!!
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06-29-2009, 08:51 PM
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#22 | | Junior Member
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Alright here is the rules on absents and lateness.
Excessive absence will inhibit the academic growth of any student. If a student is absent far too often from school, his grades will automatically be dropped in all subjects by the following scale:
ABSENCE BEYOND 10 DAYS - NO GRADE HIGHER THAN 85%
These grades will be reflected in the marking periods only. Any variation of this policy is at the discretion of the Principal and/or Vice Principal for Student Affairs.
I wasn't absent beyond 10 days. However, latenesses add up to absents. 5-10 days late is 2 extra absences. 11-15 is 4 extra.
Homeroom bell is at 8:10. I think I only had 2 latenesses after 8:10 .____.
To pea: excellent advice, thank you. I've calmed down quite a bit. Let's see what my principal says when he contacts my mom. I'm willing to do anything for my grades. Community service, staying after school, weeks of detention.
I don't understand why they would want to do this to me, too. It means I will receive less money and possibly be rejected to the schools I want. Doesn't this reflect bad on the school?
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06-29-2009, 08:56 PM
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These grades will be reflected in the marking periods only.
| Does this mean quarter or semester? The answer basically decides your fate.
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06-29-2009, 09:09 PM
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#24 | | Junior Member
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The principal and VP mean that if you get them defaulted once, it stays that way in every quarter.
It's an awful rule, I don't get it. I can see why they dropped me the third quarter. But dropping me on the 4th is mind blowing.
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06-29-2009, 09:10 PM
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OP: are you guessing about what the intended meaning is? Or did they explicitly tell you that?
Anyways, one could make a logical argument either way. Like at my school, we had to get report cards signed by parents every quarter (so teachers were required to mark us then). On the other hand, the only marks the counted were the semester grades. The language is vague at best. I don't know how this would work out legally. But, you can make an informal argument (I'd recommend writing it, so emotions aren't as involved) to the principal or superintendent.
And what if you were sick for 10+ days?
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06-29-2009, 09:16 PM
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#26 | | Junior Member
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Nope, they told me that.
The language was vague. My principal told me to work hard and get my grades up for the 4th quarter. So I did that. All my 85's were grades in the mid to high 90's. If I would have known they would screw me over regardless, I could have saved myself plenty of time and effort <_<.
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06-29-2009, 09:31 PM
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FERPA
"Parents or eligible students have the right to request that a school correct records which they believe to be inaccurate or misleading. If the school decides not to amend the record, the parent or eligible student then has the right to a formal hearing. After the hearing, if the school still decides not to amend the record, the parent or eligible student has the right to place a statement with the record setting forth his or her view about the contested information."
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06-29-2009, 09:41 PM
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^I agree that at the very least the colleges should know about this rule and why your grades are lower, maybe with your counselor backing you up in her report/rec. Make sure that you state, however, that you know you were in the wrong regarding the absences and that you worked hard to change that.
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06-29-2009, 11:26 PM
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#29 | | Member
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Wow, that really, really sucks, you have a reason to be mad.
It definitely is unfair. doesnt it seem like all the bad kids, no matter what they do, they still have another chance? Maybe for the good kids, people think, oh, if they can already reach such a high level, then they dont need any help.
Has a previous situation like yours happened before at your school?
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06-30-2009, 12:04 AM
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#30 | | Member
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I don't see why someone's grades should be reduced for absents and tardiness. They're not related for us intrinsically intelligent people  . That goes for missed homework, too.
Really though, if your principle made you that promise, he or she should've kept it. That's just being rude.
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