Andy Pettitte

Baltimoron · 11-03-2009, 10:40 PM

Andy Pettitte now has 16 postseason wins, which is the best all-time. He is going for his 17th tomorrow night. With his 16 wins, does this make him the greatest postseason pitcher of all time? Any baseball fans with any opinions on this?

ThisCouldBeHeavn · 11-03-2009, 11:04 PM

It makes him the greatest postseason pitcher on the Yankees in the last 15 years.

As an aside, wins is a pretty worthless metric for pitchers.

big dreamer · 11-04-2009, 05:57 PM

I gotta agree with TCBH here. He's persevered and had a great, long career. But I can't name him the best postseason pitcher of all time. Has been very good, but that honor is a little too much for him. I mean does he not have a losing record in the World Series. He's awesome and I hope that he clinches it again tonight, but that title is a bit much. I would not say totally worthless, as 16 postseason wins do not that he has pitched well in the postseason in the past. I mean he's obviously needed his team to score runs in the process so he can collect a W.

Baltimoron · 11-04-2009, 06:43 PM

I agree. Wins are not a good way to measure a pitcher's success. I was just having this discussion with my friends today. Who would you call the greatest postseason pitcher then?

AeroEngineer3141 · 11-04-2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Who would you call the greatest postseason pitcher then?

Why, Cliff Lee of course

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Actually, although I'm rooting for the Phillies, I doubt they'll win tomorrow's game (or the Series, for that matter). Ah well.

As for greatest all-time postseason pitcher... I'm stuck between Josh Beckett and Whitey Ford. Mariano Rivera is also up there.

dunbar · 11-04-2009, 08:07 PM

Definitely Rivera if it doesn't have to be a starter.

AeroEngineer3141 · 11-04-2009, 08:37 PM

Holy crap, I thought today was freaking Tuesday!

And now I missed two runs by the Yankees.

LakeSuperior · 11-04-2009, 10:21 PM

Yankees and any goon that plays for them suck...

Go Twins!

Kei-o-lei · 11-04-2009, 10:27 PM

enough of this modernista "post season" crap

give me his world series stats!!!

"postseason" stats are diluted by ridiculously numerous multiple playoffs

Kei

musicmom · 11-05-2009, 12:39 AM

OK, I actually agree that wins is a worthless stat for pitchers.....

But Congratulations to Andy for his gutsy performance tonite and to the World Champion NY Yankees!!!!!

pyroza · 11-05-2009, 04:35 PM

Ballgame over! World Series over! Yankees win! THEEEEEEEEEEE Yankees WIN!

-John Sterling

big dreamer · 11-05-2009, 06:04 PM

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaankkkkkkeeeeeeeessssss!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that Mariano Rivers is in the top 3 of greatest post-season pitchers of all time. Becket was absolutely nasty in 2007 (and pitched well for the Marlins when he beat NYY in '03). Ford is a good pick too, but when #42 takes the mound, batters today just know that the game will be over

ThisCouldBeHeavn · 11-05-2009, 06:34 PM

The problem with Rivera is that he tends to pitch maybe 4-6 innings in a series, while a good starter will often do 14-20 innings. I don't mean to take anything away from him, but it's a bit misleading to put starters and relievers together.

The most impressive World Series numbers probably belong to Christy Mathewson and Sandy Koufax. Babe Ruth wasn't bad either.

big dreamer · 11-05-2009, 06:45 PM

^Agreed TCBH. I was just throwing out some great guys. For a reliever though, Rivera is basically in a class all by himself. Sure, Hoffman was amazing, but the thought of sending Rivera to the mound in a playoff game scares the heck out of the other team.

ǝʌıʇɔǝdsɹǝd · 11-05-2009, 07:17 PM

steeeeeeeeeroids....wait. what? who said that?

-Self-proclaimed Extremely Biased Red Sox Fan