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Old 03-07-2012, 05:39 AM   #496
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The 'state' of our country does not find it's roots purely in one problem or the other- it's a huge boiling pot of current social, economic and cultural factors that have brought us to this spot today. Sure, the issues of a very corrupted system and an incredibly inadequate educational system are the game changers today. What matters is how we, the people (sorry for the melodramatic dialogue) handle them.

The very basic problem IMO is that most of our country is made up of people living in penury, deprived of basic rights and facilities. It's only a question of providing them. That will automatically lead to an educated population. They WANT to send their kids to school, but how? The majority of the population sees no way out of their depressing living situations, because the paths which can lead them out of there- understanding leaders, educational facilities, assurance of opportunities for their children- simply don't exist. This is not a situation that ONLY a good/clean political system or educational facilities or societal mindsets can change. It all has to come together, but FIRST the people who DO have access to basic rights and privileges (like us) need to stand up and realize that they must ask for, think about, and work towards a better country, like Aniruddha said.

@Aniruddha- the fear has a reasonable, well, reason :P
It's simply that
1. Well-to-do people in the middle class do not want to throw their families/jobs/dreams away to pursue a tumultuous path with no sure 'returns', as such. Call it selfishness, that's what it is. In that sense, kudos to the sense of responsibility and courage of our freedom fighters a 100 years back, because we as a people certainly lack those.

2. Its a backbreaking job, to say the least, to attempt to resolve the current political scenario. There's no one place to start, and it's not a job individuals can undertake on their own.

3. When it comes to corruption, well, the system has thrived as long as it is only because the common man has let it go on unchecked, often giving in to 'shortcuts' through bribes and so on. After all, he values his drinking water and electricity supply more than an unremembered 'assault to the governmental system' which only hurts him in the end.

In other words, whats required for this particular objective to be realized is 1. Leaders who know exactly what to do (motivation, like you said), and project so, and 2. A clear strategy.

Sure, in the end, every individual has to decide to take an active part, but it a spontaneous movement doesn't seem to likely right now. But I'm sure it WILL happen. How soon depends on us.

And, one more thing- education is not necessary for someone to govern a place successfully. It's more about having a complete knowledge of their constituency, the problems faced by the people, a good moral standing, a sense of justice, and some basic brightness/intelligence, which (as much as we may argue over it) most people invariably possess, whether it's brought out in them or not. Education, in this sense, is not essential, but a tool for better governance. Of course, you need to be literate to make sure you aren't being duped, but I'm assuming this is about the practicalities of governing a region.

Again, hope you don't get bored by long post, lol :P

Anyway, we better change the topic now!
So, what are all of your top choice colleges?
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:14 AM   #497
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Your post is so right.

I hope I get ready for this back breaking job...

Corruption is not inherent. The extremely poor administration leads to corruption... Go to a railway station or an BSES office, the queues are huge. A man spends his whole day paying a bill or buying a ticket so he starts bribing to get his job done and save his time. Strict administration is so important to solve these deep problems.

Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose was right when he said that every developing nation needs a few years of strict rule for proper growth and development. Mao Zedong and China is a prime example of the success of this idea.

By the way my top choice colleges are - Harvard, Williams, Penn, Amherst

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Old 03-07-2012, 07:03 AM   #498
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Thanks
And all the very best for that!
I agree with you, but by now it's become too ingrained into our lives.

Yep, that is necessary. I never understood why people burst out in anger against Anna Hazare when they found out that he dealt extremely strictly with the drunkards in his village. It was necessary to bring them onto the right path.

Cool! Mine are Princeton (practically no chance with low SAT scores/terrible interview) and Wellesley.

What about the rest of you?
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:46 AM   #499
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Hello there,
well, mine's Princeton or MIT

chances, you can guess.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:57 AM   #500
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I'd be happy anywhere. I'll choose a top school once I get all my decisions
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Old 03-07-2012, 09:08 AM   #501
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Guys, what do u think of colleges with total enrollment 20,000+ ??
Will it be too big and crowded or it will suffice??
Just asking, thinking of applying to Texas A&M.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:02 AM   #502
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Meh. It's only 8000 more than my previous school

Actually, I don't mind being in big schools ... because you can find your own niche and still be part of something way bigger than yourself or that niche.

To be honest, I would prefer the thrill of meeting new people, even in my senior year

It's more of a personal thing, than anything else.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:21 AM   #503
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Texas A&M is a different type of school and the size is not the most important factor to consider when discussing A&M. It is a conservative school in a rural setting with a predominantly caucasian population. It can be easy to feel out of place coming from another country at A&M although more American Indian kids seem to be joining lately which may alleviate the problem a bit.

The elder George Bush has a Presidential library at A&M and so he is known to show up on campus now and then and hang out with students.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:37 AM   #504
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^^ Whoa So,you mean that an Indian might have some difficulties at A&M ??
I was interested in it just because I considered it as Safety when I saw the average ACT and SAT scores. Might want to reconsider it....
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:42 AM   #505
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I would not call it a difficulty but more of a adaptation requirement to the environment. I know lot of Indians who went there for graduate studies but usually graduate school is quite diverse while at undergrad level you have a large US student population which might be more homogeneous in nature and if you have good friendship making skills, you will be fine.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:30 AM   #506
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Cobalt, why do you think your princeton interview was terrible??
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Old 03-07-2012, 01:24 PM   #507
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@Tizil, thanks a ton for the recommendations, I'll be sure to check them out.

On the topic being discussed over the last few pages, a lot of the problem India faces is an obsession with money. Most people think money=happiness, so they pick careers which provide income, but no satisfaction.

I agree with everyone who said they do it out of a background of financial hardship, but after a certain level, no salary can ever match the joy that comes out of doing what you love to do. If more people believed this, India would be a better place. Anyway, that's my two cents.

Oh, and speaking of interviews, how important are they? Are they super-formal meetings or is it just a casual conversation?
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:01 PM   #508
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brewboy, from what I have heard, interviews do not play a very very significant factor for admissions in comparison to GPA and ECs. As long as you do not assault the interviewer, you should be fine. :P Interviews are always to your advantage because it is a chance to give color and life to your application. The interviews that I've experienced have just been casual conversations, but generally, it depends on the interviewer. So... don't worry too much about it, just try to be normal and friendly, and subtly brag about yourself in a way that does not seem like bragging.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:08 PM   #509
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Wish everyone a very Happy Holi
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:14 PM   #510
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^same to you

Holi haiiii! Happy Holi to all! It's truly a Holiday
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