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Old 09-11-2012, 08:16 PM   #16
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:24 PM   #17
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Add in a 56 somewhere and I'm in.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:17 PM   #18
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BUMMMMMMMP : can someone else tell me my chances? I'd appreciate it!
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:54 PM   #19
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Oh and I have a new list of colleges I'm applying to :

NYUAD (ED)
Harvard
Yale
Brown
Penn
Cornell
University of Chicago
Cambridge University
Duke
Tufts
University of Toronto
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:24 AM   #20
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Well I'm not so good at chancing or stuff but I'd say you'd have a decent chance at colleges like duke, cornell And penn. Even at NYUAD. Harvard and Yale are high reach for everyone. Other then that I'd say you'd easily get into atleast 3-4 colleges from your list.
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:16 PM   #21
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^^ hunbun's problem isn't getting in. It's getting in with substantial FINANCIAL AID. Big difference.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:55 PM   #22
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Hey, I'm a French student too, in ES (l'elite sociale) like you! Say, how did you explain your GPA in your common app? I have a 16/20, which translates to a 3.2GPA and might make me look really bad... Any additional info you have would be great, especially for financial aid! My parents make far more that 65k before taxes, but considering the tax rate and their unwillingness to pay, I'm ****ed.
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:09 PM   #23
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You report your grades on the scale they are given. If you want to report a GPA at all, it would be out of 20 points. The international supplement lets you indicate an approximate grade equivalence. WES suggests the following equivalence: WES Grade Conversion Guide
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:34 AM   #24
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ABOUT GRADES

I agree with @bar!um, put your GPA on a 20 scale.
But I have this link (qui vient du site officiel de l'Académie de Grenoble) which converts french grades to US grades. Scroll through the page and you'll find a Word doc you can download (Conversion table from French to US grades). You'll be nicely suprised how high your US GPA is

Our school system, school profile and grading system - [L'Anglais]

I spoke a few adcoms at a College Fair, and they have all told me they are familiar with how the French system works, how academically challenging and demanding it is compared to the US one. So don't worry about converting your grades. They know how it works. Most of the colleges (Duke, NYU, Northeastern, Boston U, Chicago U...) expect a 14/15 on the BAC. Ivy Leagues expect more of course..
Can I ask you @elkbelck, have you still in Terminale or do you have your Bac already? If you're still in school, it might be a setback for some colleges. They want results, especially for International students. But you have a high GPA, and if your ECs are good, the predicted Bac grades should be good, you have a chance. Keep in mind though that a lot of International students finish their secondary school leaving exam and THEN apply to US colleges. You can see the process of applying to US colleges outside the US is a PAIN IN THE *** and you should always focus on doing good at school first. If you can manage writing essays, getting your teacher's recommandations AND transcripts translated (tes profs parlent anglais? si c'est pas le cas, faudra faire traduire le formulaire du Common App, leur donner, et puis faire re-traduire le tout en anglais.. PAIN IN THE ***!!!!), and at the same time keep your grades up, go for it. If you can't, maybe consider taking a gap year next year to focus your energy for the applications (like I did, but I'm only 17, so for me it made sense to take a year off).


ABOUT FINANCIAL AID

There are 6 colleges in the US that offer need-blind admissions and need-based financial aid for internationals. Basically, they don't look at your financial situation when they make the admission decisions. If you get in, they'll automatically calculate what your parents earn, how much they can put for your college, and pay the rest (maybe you'll have to get a job or a small loan as part of the "package"). Those schools are :

Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Darthmouth, Amherst (maybe Stanford?)

I think this is correct. Check for yourself for more info.

Then, there are a LOT of schools which offer fin aid to int'l but are not need-blind. So your ability to pay is a decision factor. Nevertheless, if you're competitive, there's no reason why they won't accept you. Institutions offering need-based fin aid to internationals include Duke, UChicago, Brown, Penn (and more, check on colleges's websites). Offering merit scholarships (most of them are academic scholarships, and if you get a 17+ on your Bac, you're def competitive to get the maximum offered) : Northeastern, Boston U, Vanderbilt, and smaller schools like Sarah Lawrence (near NYC), Pace (in NYC)... Check those schools out. Smaller, non-ranked, schools. They offer academic and/or extra curricular scholarships that are pretty interesting (most of them range from 10 to 30k / per year, you have to re-apply every year but if you maintain a high GPA it'll work out).

SO YEAH man. What else?
I almost forgot...

NYU Abu Dhabi!!! One of the FEW US colleges that offers a FULL RIDE financial aid. If your parents make up to 130k a year, they won't have to contribute a dime. You'll get all your expanses, room, board, tuition, study away programs, even 2 flights home per year PAID! Too good to be true! It's in Abu Dhabi, but part of the NYU Global Education program (you get to travel everywhere, study from world renoun teachers, ect ect!). Check the website out : nyuad.edu. AND PLUS : if you work hard during 4 years, you'll be eligible to apply for full ride scholarships for NYU GRAD SCHOOLS!! It depends on what you wanna become, but Grad schools are a must in many careers. And they cost SO much, with little financial aid available. So getting a full ride undergrad PLUS grad is a DREAM for EVERY student!!

If you have any more questions, please ask. I'll be happy to help you out!
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:21 AM   #25
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Hey, thanks for all the info. Problem is, my parents make above 300k before taxes, but refuse to pay, since my dad did it by himself and thinks it's a life lesson. He'll only pay if it's Harvard or Yale. For the commonapp translation, I think I'll manage, since my english teacher agreed to do the translation so that I won't mess with it haha. The school reports are kind of a problem, since it's my counselor's first time dealing with the commonapp, so I have to press him every so often. I'm 16 right now, but my home life is a little complicated, so I'd much rather leave as soon as possible.

I'm in Terminale right now, so I only have my first half of the bac, but grades are a problem (my bac grades are on average 3 points higher than my school grades) since my teachers are really harsh. Again, thanks for the link, I'll make sure to include that in the additional info section. Hope we do well!
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:32 AM   #26
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If you have a 16/20 GPA in Terminale, what PROBLEM are you talking about?! Haha, your grades are amazing!! I don't remember what I posted earlier but as a matter of fact, I had a 14.5/20 overall GPA in Terminale. And I got a 17.3 for my bac. So you're off to have a 18 or maybe 19 on your bac. That's Harvard material! (with relevant ECs of course...).
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:52 AM   #27
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Well, my grades are pretty unbalanced for one (I had a 14 average in science, and I got 18 on the science bac) and I REALLY suck at philosophy. Also, what school forms did you send? Your bulletins annuels or trimestriels? From which years? I had a slump in 2de with horrible grades, so I might not want to send that haha. So which are mandatory? Thanks for the encouragement.
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:00 PM   #28
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What's mandatory are transcripts from your last two years of high school. I decided to send my Livret Scolaire. It has all the info needed, your annual grade in each subject compared to your class from Premiere and Terminale, ratings of your skills and teacher's comments. Plus the table form is short, easy to read and understand.
But since you're not done with Term.. I think you will need to send Seconde grades (annuels or trimestriels doesn't really matter, so pick what's looks best for you). I don't know if you could get away with sending only your grades of Première and your bulletin du premier trimestre de Term. You can, but maybe after submitting your app, some adcoms will ask for your Seconde bulletin..
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:41 AM   #29
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Actually let me rephrase that : transcripts from 9th grade are mandatory. So that means from Troisième and up (including your Brevet)

Hope that helps.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:17 AM   #30
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Oh des français!! I can't believe I found other french people appying to top colleges! Bon moi je suis en terminale S par contre!
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