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05-05-2008, 12:41 PM
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| University of Nottingham also deserves mention |
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05-05-2008, 01:46 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
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both arwu and thes are world rankings. world rankings is world rankings. here we're talking uk and us.
| Well, there are exactly 4 non-US and non-UK universities in the first 34 places of THES world rankings. It shouldn't be so hard to omit these 4 and be left with a list of 30 top US and UK college, should it? |
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05-05-2008, 08:05 PM
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#18 | | Junior Member
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| ^ i think the OP is probably seeking affirmation for his choice of college...aka trying to fish out a list of "prestigious" unis from ppl and then persuading himself that he has made the right choice
and to the OP, in case you havent noticed, the THES/ARWU IS basically a US/UK uni ranking, at least at the top, so it'll serve your purposes
*hold down left mouse button, drag across the screen, hold down ctrl and click c, and open up your notepad followed by ctrl v* |
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05-05-2008, 08:21 PM
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| Soas, Kings and Nottingham are all universities which would pretty much only ever be mentioned by Brits (or immigrants to Britain) in this type of list. |
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05-06-2008, 06:01 AM
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#20 | | Junior Member
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| iongbowmen: no need to go into detail here, but research methodologies used by thes and arwu rankings were very different. thes heavily weighted by peer assessments dominated by europeans/australians/asians while arwu rankings based on nobel prizes/papers/citations. both serve different purposes. again, if we're to use the available rankings to consolidate into one, times good uni guide/uswr rankings, whose methodologies more comparable and purpose directly targeted at uk/us, would serve better. but that's not the objective anyways. this thread leaves it up to cc posters' opinion, no rankings needed thouh.
op does not have any self-motive and is not fishing out anything. he and his son are finished n done with the whole col apps process. s accepted to imperial, ucl, edinburgh, warwick and bristol in uk and to u michigan, cmu, cornell and u penn in us. he's happily looking forward to upenn this fall. this thread is meant for those int'l students searching for good us and uk schools and now is the time to start the process. |
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05-06-2008, 06:24 AM
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#21 | | Junior Member
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| so far we have about 25 on the list updated as follows:
berkeley, uc
brown
caltech
cambridge
chicago,u
columbia
cornell
edinburgh
harvard
imperial
georgetown
kcl (kings college london)
lse
michigan, u
mit
northwestern
oxford
penn, u
princeton
soas
stanford
ucl (university college london)
tufts
warwick
yale
thank you all. pls feel welcome to add more to the list. |
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05-06-2008, 08:27 PM
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#22 | | Junior Member
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| remove edinburgh, warwick, KCL, and soas <--- big joke
add in amherst, swarthmore, williams, rice, Duke, CMU, NYU, Dartmouth |
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05-06-2008, 11:17 PM
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| I think Johns hopkins, UCLA and maybe Wellesley should be on the list too.. |
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05-07-2008, 01:51 AM
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#24 | | Junior Member
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| i agree:
remove edinburg, KCL, wariwick, nottingham and soas!
add williams, rice, duke, dartmouth! |
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05-07-2008, 02:07 AM
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| This is the most pointless of the pointless bs ranking threads that I have yet seen. |
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05-07-2008, 02:20 AM
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#26 | | Junior Member
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| I think when you guys get into the working place you would understand why SOAS, Edinburgh, KCl and Warwick deseve mention and not Williams or Amherst. 95% of the people think Amherst is a community college- these are people who are educated while a lot of them have heard of the easy-to-get into but landmark british schools |
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05-07-2008, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BedHead This is the most pointless of the pointless bs ranking threads that I have yet seen. | not good enough for a Princetonian eh? snob.. |
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05-07-2008, 06:57 AM
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#28 | | Junior Member
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| here's an update:
amherst
berkeley, uc
brown
caltech
cambridge
chicago, u
cmu
columbia
cornell
dartmouth
duke
edinburgh
georgetown
harvard
imperial
johns hopkins
kcl (kings college london)
lse
michigan, u
mit
northwestern
nottingham
nyu
oxford
penn, u
rice
soas
stanford
swarthmore
tufts
ucl (university college london)
ucla
warwick
williams
yale |
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05-07-2008, 08:51 AM
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#29 | | Junior Member
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| USC.
Before anyone starts screaming "WHY?!?", let me reason my choice out.
1. USC = UCLA at the very least, therefore if UCLA is on the list, USC deserves to be (in terms of financial endowment, faculty-student ratio, tradition, and the private>public prestige factor, just to name a few, SC arguably comes out tops)
2. I know UCLA has a wider global recognition, but I'm not too sure that the majority of Americans will feel that LA trumps SC.
3. USC has an incredibly diverse international student population, and if I remember it right, I once read that after NYU, SC has the largest int'l pop of any American university. (sadly though I can't back this up with a source)
4. With that in mind, since this is a list to help internationals decide on a university of their choice, it would make sense that a school with such a wide global reach in terms of student body should be considered as a candidate.
5. Finally, on a lighter note, I must admit that I am planning to enroll at SC (yay!) and that Trojan football is awesome.
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05-07-2008, 09:03 AM
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#30 | | Junior Member
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| Yea..because most unis located at big cities are usually considered pretty prestigious- like NYU, UCLA and USC.. Education channels like discovery will always get these unis' profs to talk on their shows.. |
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