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College Admissions for Foreign Students

VANHALEN1884VANHALEN1884 Posts: 70- Junior Member
edited January 2010 in International Students
Greetings CC Community. Do you have any idea about how difficult or how easy it is for foreign students to get into the top colleges in the U.S.? Please feel free to post your opinions. Thank You.
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  • pingpingpongpingpingpong Posts: 172Registered User Junior Member
    freaking hard
  • VANHALEN1884VANHALEN1884 Posts: 70- Junior Member
    Why do you believe that it is hard for foreign students to get into top American colleges?
  • CooleyP1CooleyP1 Posts: 143Registered User Junior Member
    its not hard....top schools WANT to be diverse so they accept as many eligible foreign students they can so there is quite a chance for foreign students to get accepted
  • fiona_fiona_ Posts: 1,811Registered User Senior Member
  • luceveritaluceverita Posts: 464Registered User Member
    less than 3% of applicants are admitted in most top schools. for example MIT takes about 130 out of 3500 applicants. numbers are similar for harvard, stanford and other schools.
    also, like most of the applicants to these top schools the foreign applicants are very competitive, so it is overall very hard to get in
  • thebigcheese121thebigcheese121 Posts: 2,044Registered User Senior Member
    If you are asking for aid, your chances of an acceptance take a nose-dive.
  • gapyearstudentgapyearstudent Posts: 1,679Registered User Senior Member
    "less than 3% of applicants are admitted in most top schools. for example MIT takes about 130 out of 3500 applicants"

    MIT's is especially low because they have a quota of 4% for international students.

    That being said, other top colleges are no cakewalk either. Yale's international acceptance rate is about 3%, Harvard's 5%, Stanford's 6% (3% if you apply for aid) and on and on. At need-sensitive schools, your chances go down a lot once you need aid.

    When you go down the rung (not that much down), if you apply for FA as an intl, chances go way down. For example Vassar which has a 25% acceptance rate for domestic students, has an 8% acceptance rate for internationals. Bates, 30% domestic, 9% international. Bates College Profile - Information for International Students
  • mom2collegekidsmom2collegekids Posts: 60,695Registered User Senior Member
    It's hard for all students (domestic and int'l) to get accepted to top schools.


    If you are asking for aid, your chances of an acceptance take a nose-dive.

    Very true at schools that aren't "need blind" for int'ls.

    It's just a guess on my part, but I think that many schools are hesitant with int'ls that need aid because it's hard for US schools to verify their need. It's too easy for int'l students to hide money, not fully disclose income/accounts/assets/investments, etc. It's no wonder that most schools don't give aid to int'ls. It's too hard to know who really has need.
  • schoolgirlschoolgirl Posts: 93Registered User Junior Member
    ^actually, even at "need blind" schools, your chances of admission as an international student are practically zero. Unless you have something really different and special to offer, they would rather take a domestic student who can pay the tuition full b/c you know, it really boils down to politics and money when you get to that "top level" of schools. If you're an international student who can pay the tuition full and have decent SAT scores, you might have a chance at the "lower" ivies, but again, there's not a guarantee that you'll have an easier time than anyone else.
  • fiona_fiona_ Posts: 1,811Registered User Senior Member
    It's just a guess on my part, but I think that many schools are hesitant with int'ls that need aid because it's hard for US schools to verify their need. It's too easy for int'l students to hide money, not fully disclose income/accounts/assets/investments, etc. It's no wonder that most schools don't give aid to int'ls. It's too hard to know who really has need.
    If it were easy for international students to hide money, then internationals from England, Australia, Singapore, etc would be preferred over internationals from Vietnam, China, etc in disbursing aid to internationals. But I don't see that.

    It's because the majority of private schools don't have much institutional aid, in the first place. Many international students have high need and the money just doesn't go very far. I go to Harvey Mudd which is really poor as far as institutional funds for internationals go, they pay for like three internationals a year.
  • amarkovamarkov Posts: 2,288Registered User Senior Member
    The thing is, people can be rather nationalistic, Americans especially so. The average donor to a university doesn't particularly want a lot of their money going to finance the education of people from foreign countries.
  • mom2collegekidsmom2collegekids Posts: 60,695Registered User Senior Member
    ^^^

    LOL...that's why it's so easy for Americans to get financial aid to go to school in other countries....Not.
  • ISUClubISUClub Posts: 790Registered User Member
    I had a H-4 dependent visa when I applied to my colleges. I believe I was a competitive applicant, but I was poor, and I got rejected by every private school I applied to. My counselor told me to "not give up on my dreams" and apply to more top notch schools. Apparently she thought I was a genius. That dumb@$$ better wake the hell up before she screws someone else.

    Yea, if you file for financial assistance without a FAFSA, which only come if you have a green card, you're DONE. Use the admission cost to buy a freaking new laptop.

    But if your family is stinkin rich and is able to afford the FULL cost, some colleges won't mind and will place you in the same pool as their native applicants. I remember Stanford University does that.
  • KujaluluKujalulu Posts: 185Registered User Junior Member
    it is even harder if you come from countries like China, India, South Korea, where there are lots of students applying
  • schoolgirlschoolgirl Posts: 93Registered User Junior Member
    ^I guess your best bet as an international student would be to apply to tier-3 or tier-4 schools that might give partial aid or merit scholarships based on your gpa's and sat scores. It is hard to find a school that gives aid to internationals to begin with, but you might end up with a few that might be able to offer some $$ if you have decent numbers.

    I believe the city colleges of New York give admission to int'l students without the consideration of aid. Maybe you should look into those...
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