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05-30-2006, 02:18 AM
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#46 | | Member
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| Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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05-30-2006, 07:54 AM
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#47 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NJ
Posts: 49
| Kyzan:
Thank you! It’s about time someone spoke up. I’d already apologized in a prior post & do so again. You won’t hear another word from me on that subject.
As to your post, of those CEO’s I know personally, there’s no rhyme or reason. They have varied backgrounds. For instance, the CEO of one company that resells software (this is a CEO successful enough to own his own airplane) has an undergraduate degree in Psychology. I’ve known him for about 20 years, and it wasn’t about his major. It was about the job path that eventually led him there (which included quite a few different types of employment. For example: at one point he was the business manager for a health care provider). In fact, his Senior V.P. – who’s next in line for the throne – came by a very different path.
The SVP worked his way up through the company’s Technical Support Department (fresh out of a 3rd tier college in NY). His ability to handle underlings & customers – not his degree – helped him into lateral management positions before the untimely death of the (then current) SVP on July 6, 2001…. And that guy (a good friend who had a heart attack on my wife’s birthday), came through an equally convoluted path from a college in IN through multiple prior positions (he was an IN State Trooper fresh out of college)… got into sales in FL… met the current CEO, and worked his way up from sales…
That’s just one (incredibly shortened) set of examples… but the point is that there’s no treasure map that I know of unless the corporation (private or public) was started by a family member one or more generations ago. I can give you more examples of both… but I doubt it will paint a clearer picture when it comes to majors or fields.
CFO is another story. All the CFO’s I know have very similar backgrounds. They started out as either accountants or math majors who became actuaries (or something similar). A very few simply started out as bookkeepers at small firms and worked their way up.
I believe you might want to consider researching the qualities that successful “CXO’s” have in common… |
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05-30-2006, 09:20 AM
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#48 | | Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
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| I am just curious on how they achieve such positions. There's also the COO, whom I still have no idea what the position coordinates. I am not too interested in becoming a CXO mainly because such job offerings are extremely rare and the presurre will surely take some years away from my life. However, it seems like Hedge Fund Managers make more money than CXOs, why is that? |
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05-31-2006, 11:25 PM
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#49 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 124
| Because a CEOs compensation package is often determined by others(board of directors)...plus if the company is public and the CEO is getting paid too much, the shareholders can get ****ed at how much money is being given to these guys. a hedge fund managers pay is much more performance based than even a CEOS. |
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06-16-2006, 09:19 PM
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#50 | | Senior Member
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Once again you've dodged the requests for facts and prior case law... and attempted to change the thrust of your prior posts. Obviously, as you've so aptly demonstrated, you know far more about the subject than I.
| I never said I "knew" more about the subject than anybody else.
My position has been clear - entrepreneurship is appropriate for certain people who have a certain mental makeup, but not appropriate for others. If you are going to take the position that everybody in the world ought to become an entrepreneur, regardless of their own personal psychological makeup, then I think it is clear that you hold an opinion far outside the mainstream. You have the right to your opinion, but I think you should at least admit that you stand far outside the mainstream. To me, the notion that everybody, including highly risk averse people, should become entrepreneurs, is simply not a tenable position.
I have dodged nothing, I can simply point to the mere existence of liability insurance to prove that some people out there must be getting sued. That ought to proof enough. After all, why even have liability insurance if nobody ever gets sued? Are the people buying such insurance being stupid? |
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06-18-2006, 06:56 PM
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#51 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York City
Posts: 287
| I'd say just start at a really lucrative company and then work your way up
i.e Goldman Sachs |
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07-04-2006, 11:11 PM
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#52 | | New Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 16
| If I know I'll do good in both med and business, what should I do hi, my name is Peter, and Im from NY, NY. I wanted to go to med school all of my life (with my success with science classes and my mother's drilling about being a doctor). I realized resently that I like money more than science. I have a 100.8 average and Im confident that I'll be the top 1% of my class ( maybe validatorian). Im confident that I'll do good in premed and med school. Im 16.5 and Im going to 11th grade in Sep., and I dont know what to do. Should I continue with science and study for 12 yrs + 5 years of residentship, or should I go into business and have money a lot faster and have more opportunities for advancement. Im good with numbers (I'm going to precalculus next year), but I dont know a rat's ass about the business world. I know 3 languages (russian, English and hebrew) fluently. please help me, I 'm doing my research , and I see that ibanking might not be for me- im better than that, I dont want to be a tool. thanks |
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07-05-2006, 11:24 AM
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#53 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dehra Dun,India-->WPI,MA
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| ^^^Dude if u are all that you say....then why not just kick everything out and go into Entrepreneurship which is in a way money only if u have brain..... |
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07-06-2006, 12:26 PM
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#54 | | New Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 16
| vampiro, do I have to go to business school for that? or any college will do.
Can you become a businessman with a science major, and still be able to take the MCATS?
Anyway, I realized that its still too early for me to decide, I'll just lay back and enjoy sun. |
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07-06-2006, 01:02 PM
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#55 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dehra Dun,India-->WPI,MA
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| Entrepreneurship is just starting ones own venture in your field....so i dont think a business school is required for that...but you might want to research schools which do have a startup company culture (like Stanford)....you can obviously give the MCAT as long as you are prepared for it....(you will have to follow a pre-med path for 4 years if u want to get into a Med School).....Honestly you should decide after your first year in college what you want to do...keeping both the things in mind is not a giid idea...just do what you want to do the most because concentrating on 2 very different fields is not really healthy for anyone. |
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07-08-2006, 02:48 AM
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#56 | | Junior Member
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 227
| My dad is a senior engineer (dynamicist, mechE), for Lockheed Martin (worked there for 26 years, and now more like a project manager). He's very good at what he does. The people he works with (profs from MIT, USAF General's, various other professionals) told him "he could stand head and shoulders with anyone in the world on his subject"...his salary caps at about 160k. He's never wanted to go to manager because lockheed doesnt do overtime for its managers. You won't be rich as an engineer but you won't starve either. |
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07-08-2006, 03:03 AM
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#57 | | Junior Member
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 227
| as a PS. The nice thing about lockheed though, is they'll pay for your masters. They paid for all of Stanford for my dad. It's a perk for defending the US. =) |
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07-10-2006, 12:20 AM
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#58 | | New Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 16
| you are right. Im going to feel out some classes concerning my interests and then see if I like them.
Thanks.
PS. how is the economy in India? Do you see any future for further foreign investments? |
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07-10-2006, 06:56 AM
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#59 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dehra Dun,India-->WPI,MA
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| for the next 10 years the Indian Real Estate is going to grow...the rate is predicted to be 8 times the current rate in 10 years (and thats the average including all regions)....However it is unadvisable to invest into property in the metro regions which are now rising astronomically but the yield or maybe % profit that they produce wont really be that big now as the growth will come to a standstill in some time....Its a good time to invest in Land near the metros at places which companies are using for back offices and which at present are farm lands mostly going cheap if u have the will to search for one.... |
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07-17-2006, 12:32 AM
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#60 | | Member
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UCLA / Westwood
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| CSOs are becomming quite important. Chief Security Officers. You better have brains AND guts. Alot do have backgrounds in IT... not sure about military though
There was an article about them in Business Week couple of months ago... |
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