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Old 08-03-2009, 02:46 PM   #16
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"I do agree that some colleges are a bit predatorial in how they sway people do liberal art degrees for instance.

My gf's brother has a dual degree in liberal arts from Cal State, he has NEVER had a real job since graduating in 2004."

This may have more to do with the person rather than the credentials. It also depends on your definition of a "real" job.
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Old 08-03-2009, 03:17 PM   #17
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I don't know why the original poster is suing and she doesn't have a case. One thing I learned from my undergraduate career center is that how long it takes you to find a job depends on how hard you work at it. If you look really hard for a job then it might only take you a month. If you don't look very hard then it might take six. The original poster is now spending time on this silly lawsuit which is more time she won't be looking for work.

My undergraduate experience with our career center was terrific. It was a small school but the person who worked there had a rolodex full of alumni contacts, helped me with my resume, taught me how to look for a job and gave me a pep talk when I needed it.

The career center I had access to after graduate school was useless. I figured out quickly that they weren't going to be of any help so I didn't use them as a resource. I just hoped that the staff would be replaced soon with people who could do better than telling me to look in the want ads.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:52 PM   #18
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The nypost.com version of this article seems to have since been edited but earlier today the article included the mentioning of the fact this student graduated with a 2.7 GPA...
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:22 PM   #19
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Alumna sues college because she hasn't found a job - CNN.com

confirms her gpa. Does not surprise me at all that she didn't get a job with that kind of a 2.7. Especially given the current economy and the competition for jobs at this point in time. Just another lazy underachiever who is looking for a quick fix for what I'm guessing is something that is entirely a result of her own lack of initiative.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:22 PM   #20
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I read it on CNN.com and they mention the 2.7 aswell.

That 2.7 will definitely help the defense shut this one out lol.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:36 PM   #21
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If this is one of those for-profit career colleges I hope she wins. The "councilors" at those schools are just glorified used-car salesmen whose sole purpose is to get your butt in a seat at any cost. They absolutely do lie to students to make their quotas. They inflate their placement rates, show prospective students false or misleading data about salaries and job prospects, and spring hidden fees on students, among other things. This kind of place does say they help with placement and when you call they send a list of job search websites and offer to review your resume.

These schools also have ridiculously high student loan default rates that put the whole student loan system at jeopardy. They should not even be allowed to receive federal financial aid.

There are been cases where students have won class-actions against career colleges that over-promise. She should talk to other jobless grads and get a class-action going.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:51 PM   #22
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Being from the area I would say that Monroe College is a for-profit career college like ThatPoshGirl described, but suing your Alma mater for not getting a job is ridiculous. This makes me wonder, if this goes suit goes through, can a person sue the public education system in NYC for similar reasons?
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:42 PM   #23
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Either way, it seems like this person has made herself unemployable for life. I don't know how many companies would higher someone with an entitlement complex severe enough to merit litigation.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:54 AM   #24
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Another example where we always want to sue someone for no good reason.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:42 AM   #25
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This makes me wonder, if this goes suit goes through, can a person sue the public education system in NYC for similar reasons?
The difference is that for-profit schools over-promise and under-educate. They show students statistics from the top 25% and try to claim they can get them there. They tell students they will help them find a job, and then they don't. Plus the student ends up with a lower quality education and a school name on their resume that makes employers laugh.

These schools should be required to tell students what their graduates are making and their placement rate.
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:52 PM   #26
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Re: you NEED a college degree these days to do well financially:

I'm going to make a guess here... that about 40% of the $125k+ jobs in the U.S. are in two areas: 1) owning all or part of a small business, and 2) being a commissioned sales rep/broker for just about any sized company.

In neither of these cases have I seen a lack of a college degree be an disqualifying condition.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:40 PM   #27
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She has a 2.7 GPA!!!

I think it will be hard for any university grads to find a job with a 2.7
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Old 08-05-2009, 04:49 PM   #28
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'I'm going to make a guess here... that about 40% of the $125k+ jobs in the U.S. are in two areas: 1) owning all or part of a small business, and 2) being a commissioned sales rep/broker for just about any sized company.
That is entirely false and a empty statistic. Do you realize how many departments there are in even in a mid size corporation? Sales is simply one department. People in managerial position from Finance departments, Marketing, Merchandising, Manufacturing, etc. often times make more money than sales managers. I'm not sure where your guess came from but not a single part of your statement is true. Do you know how many people who own small businesses make LESS than $100,000/year? Do you have any idea how many people sink themselves into debt because of a small business?

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In neither of these cases have I seen a lack of a college degree be an disqualifying condition.
What experience do you have hiring people? I sure haven't seen any sales positions that could bring in $125k+ that don't require a college degree.


If you're going to "guess", at least make an educated guess.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:06 AM   #29
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It is her fault that she cannot get a job.
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:57 AM   #30
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"As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record."

ROFL...you have got to be kidding me. 2.7 GPA is bottom half of a business department. Solid attendance record? This isn't jr. high...I didn't even know they kept attendance in college. How come it doesn't mention extracurriculars or internships? What a joke.
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