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08-31-2009, 09:02 PM
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#31 | | Member
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^Problem is, she was probably told throughout her college education that she was doing everything right and as long as she passed her classes, would score a good job. A 2.7 is not exactly marketable in top jobs, but I don't think she is aiming for top jobs. She probably was passed up by those graduating form her University with better credentials. Though, after reading her quote, she sounds like an entitled *****.
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09-02-2009, 08:26 PM
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#32 | | Member
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Obviously it is easy to laugh at a situation such as this, especially in a forum filled mostly with students who have been ‘educated’ about education for many years.
I have said this for years, every single ****ing time I hear some ridiculous commercial on the radio or television advertising one of the countless for-profit institutions throughout the U.S., it flat out makes me sick. The target market for these places are undereducated and often times down-and-out members of society, looking for a way out of a dead end life. They are gullible, and uninformed. Anybody with working knowledge of the system can spot one of these institutions from a thousand miles away, but there are many people who just don’t know the system and think that all you have to do is go to ’a’ college and you’re set.
I personally know a number of people with liberal arts, physical education, and other degrees that mean next to nothing in the marketplace. They graduate and search for many months(or years) without finding a job, from decent non-profit institutions. But, they knew this going into college and wanted to take the easy route - that truly is their fault. The fact of life that most people on here know, is that you have to go to one of the best schools in the country to get a well paying job with an easy major. Even with a highly sought after major you are pushing your luck attending an unknown school. I agree with the poster that said 80% of students today probably would be better off not going to college. You have to realize that there are thousands of schools throughout the U.S., and most of them are no-name institutions that require an explanation in any conversation. Perhaps it won’t hurt to have ‘a’ degree on your resume, but it certainly isn’t worth the amount of money necessary to get it.
Having spent a significant amount of time around uneducated and down-and-out people in my life, it is my opinion that something should be done to stop the predatory marketing strategies these institutions use. I guarantee you that nobody would attend them if someone said, “Hey! If you go here, employers and many other people will just laugh at you when you show them your degree, and not only that, but you need to pay us X$ to make this happen…”
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09-02-2009, 08:52 PM
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#33 | | Senior Member
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My brother has an MBA from Wharton and 25+ years of experience at Fortune 500 firms (with steadily increasing levels of salary and supervisory responsibilities) -- and he can't find a job either!
Should HE sue?
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09-02-2009, 10:55 PM
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#34 | | Member
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Please tell me that’s not an attempt to compare a Wharton graduate’s life and opportunities with that of a no-name, for-profit, school… Your brother probably can’t find a job paying 200+ and isn’t willing to work for any less. If a graduate of school Xtech gets a job that can pay a meager rent payment and phone bill they’re lucky.
I haven’t read the article, and my points here aren’t directed at her specific situation. Instead, I am arguing that these programs are a scam - and that even in good times a decent paying job out of one of them probably happens in every 1/250 students.
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09-02-2009, 11:42 PM
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#35 | | Junior Member
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purduefrank
The problem is there are too many employers who require degrees for jobs that shouldn't require degrees. Particularly with employment through the internet it's way too easy for HR people to save themselves a lot of resume reading by just requiring a bachelor degree for something a high school grad could easily do.
As far as hating for-profit education...I think this society would be FAR better off if millions of English and history majors at 3rd tier schools went to DeVry to learn to operate or repair heavy machinery, computers, MRI's, etc. I appreciate the desire for liberal educations but it's not like there aren't millions of people holding B.A.s who wouldn't know a Platonic ideal if it hit them in the face and called them Sally.
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09-27-2009, 03:25 PM
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#36 | | Junior Member
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Its not really shocking that these career colleges taking advantage of unsuspecting students- its bound to happen. I agree she shouldn't sue the school. Never believe what anyone says.
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