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07-26-2006, 03:37 PM
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| Law school for this type of person (ENFP)?
Your strengths may include:
Impressing people with your quickness and creativity
Anticipating the "right" answers people are looking for
Developing rapport easily and changing gears quickly
Thinking quickly on your feet and articulating your strengths effectively
Networking effectively to create helpful relationships
Your blindspots may include:
Not following through on important details and deadlines
Having difficulty committing before you have checked out all your options
Being too idealistic and setting unrealistic goals
Not being very organized and not using your time well
Exaggerating or not being completely accurate with facts
For a career to be satisfying for you, it should:
Let you work with lots of interesting creative people
Allow you to use your creativity to solve problems
Involve work that is fun, challenging, and always varied
Let you work at your own pace and schedule with a minimum of rules or supervision
Be consistent with your personal values
Be done in an environment that is friendly, relaxed, and appreciates humor
Rarely require you to be responsible for lots of details
Let you use your imagination to create products or services that help people
Your Preferred Learning Style
While ALL individuals are unique, students of the same type often learn best in similar ways. The following summarizes what you need in order to maximize learning. Your learning environment should:
Provide a wide variety of activities and a varied schedule
Allow plenty of opportunity for interaction and collaboration
Provide a friendly, casual, stimulating, and flexible learning environment
Appreciate your need to "think out loud" and perform in front of classmates
Encourage you to develop alternative ways of completing assignments
Reward you for your imagination and creativity
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07-26-2006, 05:58 PM
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Dear Rolen: Unless you are just about the tops - and I do mean the tops - in law or whatever other career you go into, what you mention as your strengths are not likely to impress anyone for long or cause anyone to hire you if you are disorganized, cannot meet deadlines, and expect to be able to work with minimal supervision.
Working with creative people and finding creative ways to solve problems can be plusses in law, but you must be able to meet deadlines set by others (especially judges or clients) in order to be able to function as a lawyer - because in all your work you will be representing - working on behalf of - someone other than yourself, that is, a client. No clients = no work for a lawyer = no income.
So try to add at least a layer of self-discipline to your outgoing, creative nature.
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07-27-2006, 08:56 AM
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I think you need to realize that Myers-Briggs tests are a load of crap if you even want to consider law.
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07-27-2006, 10:51 AM
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I'm an EFNP. I'm also something of an amateur Jungian; I've read through all twenty or so volumes of his collected works; Myers-Briggs is based on Jung's "Psycological Types"; I give it more credence than username321 does.
ENFP's aren't the most common type among lawyers. (I'm away from my library at the moment, but my recollection is that ESTJ's predominate.)
I've been practicing law for more than 20 years, and have generally been happy doing so.
Career counselors most often urge ENFP's to become consultants. My current job (in-house counsel for a decent-sized corporation) has a lot in common with consulting.
There's definitely a place for ENFPs in the law. You may have to search a little bit to find your niche, however. Don't expect to find it as an associate of a big law firm.
Dadofsam, these aren't specifically the OP's strengths: they're the strengths commonly associated with ENFPs. We ENFP's know that sort of thing intuitively.
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07-28-2006, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Greybeard
We ENFP's know that sort of thing intuitively. | Sorry, I don't have anything meaningful to contribute to this thread but that is funny, Greybeard.
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07-28-2006, 11:38 PM
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I like M&Ms, the peanut kind, and we M&M lovers know that sort of thing too. Sigh. |
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07-29-2006, 01:01 AM
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Wildflower,
Sensing type can discern whether they like peanut M&Ms, by tasting them. Intuitives "just know" they're going to like them (or not) before they've tried them.
There was an old Alka Seltzer commercial you're probably too young to have seen, in which the narrator tells about how someone was urging him to eat something, repeated imploring him to "'try it, you'll like it.' So I tried it. It didn't like it. Thought I was gonna die."
The narrator is a sensing type; the food pusher is an intuitive. These functions exist in blended forms in everyone, according to Jung, but for each pairing (introverted or extraverted, intuitive or sensing, thinking or feeling, and perceiving or judging (MB's contribution, I believe)), each person has a preferred mode.
Thus the narrator of the Alka Seltzer commercial isn't entirely lacking in intuition; there's a hint of it in his intimation of death. Even here, though, it's his bodily sensations that fuel his intuition, before the timely intervention of Alka Seltzer.
I love a story with a happy ending.
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07-29-2006, 01:26 AM
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I took three different versions of the test that measures the same thing.
First time: INTJ. Second time: INTF. Third time: ENTP.
So yeah, for sure the N and T. The other two keep changing.
The Myer Briggs test is bogus.
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07-29-2006, 02:15 AM
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INTP and ENTP seem to be the lawyer type. You have to have a mind that tries to piece everything together in order to understand the law.
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08-21-2006, 01:29 AM
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Ok, Greybeard...so I am an ENTJ...not sure what that means, but I did succumb to pressure and took the test  . Any input? |
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08-21-2006, 06:11 AM
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I'm an INTJ. Hard-core.  I can pretend to be extroverted, but mostly it's all about being talkative or friendly; I definitely recharge when alone. Intuitive, oh yes - that whole sensing thing is just cumbersome.
The middle two are the ones that correlate to "learning styles;" I took a test in ninth grade which had SF, ST, NT, and NF. SF = warm, fuzzy, learn by empathy people; ST = study, study, study types; very serious; NT = "intuitive flash" types; NF = artistic learners. This makes more (intuitive?) sense if you consider the alternate descriptions: S = concrete, N = abstract, F = random, T = sequential. So yes, abstract-sequential types are good at law school.
I did find it amusing that my Myers-Briggs told me to be an engineer or a lawyer. Hum...
Re: ENTJs: http://www.discoveryourpersonality.com/entj.html http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTJ.html http://typelogic.com/entj.html http://keirsey.com/personality/ntej.html |
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08-21-2006, 10:30 AM
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| I am also a hard-core INTJ, especially on the introverted scale. I scored a hundred on it every time I took the test. Quote: |
INTJ's make up the smallest percentage of the population's personality types and are arguably the most misunderstood.
| So... so true. http://www.bradstevens.com/articles/...iggs_intj.html
Aries, you might want to read this: http://socionics.com/prof/intj2.htm
You do not seem that socially handicapped, though. In fact, you seem quite mobile in such scenarios. Now... I am definitely socially handicapped... as my posts on this forum have probably shown
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08-21-2006, 01:11 PM
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o please nspeds. You're a senior member. You shouldn't be using Brad Stevens of Austin Texas' personal website to cite info. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...akdownMBTI.jpg
This is a chart based on inferential statistics used on data from at least two data sets over thirty years. It shows INTJ as the third least common.
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08-21-2006, 01:26 PM
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"o please nspeds. You're a senior member. You shouldn't be using Brad Stevens of Austin Texas' personal website to cite info."
"INTJ's make up the smallest percentage of the population's personality types and are arguably the most misunderstood.'
So... so true."
I guess, I'll have to agree. lol.
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08-21-2006, 01:28 PM
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Oh, and thanks for the links, Aries. I appreciate it, Dahling |
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