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Mcgill- Harvard of Canada?

an2008an2008 Posts: 83Registered User Junior Member
edited September 2012 in McGill University
I have heard that McGill is Canada's Harvard. And I just want to know: Is it?
Because it's a lot cheaper and much easier to get in. Is McGill comparable to the Ivies and other elite schools in the US?

Thanks.
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  • beatlespwrbeatlespwr Posts: 216Registered User Junior Member
    no. its not.
    its more like columbia, or another large research university.
  • BIGTWIXBIGTWIX Posts: 2,440Registered User Senior Member
    im going to have to disagree
    i dont think its like columbia

    the academics are great, but its not as personal as Ivy's

    ide say its more comparable with Cal

    so yeah
    Top notch academics
    but not that personal

    yeah
    its still an incredible school
    TIMES rankings ranks it 21 in the world...
    and ranks it above brown,dartmouth,columbia,cornell
  • BlobofBlobof Posts: 1,183Registered User Senior Member
    People read too much into that comparison. McGill is Canada's Harvard in the sense that it's been historically considered the top university in the country.
  • an2008an2008 Posts: 83Registered User Junior Member
    Not that it matters much, but cornell and columbia ranked higher than McGill in the TImes.
  • drmambodrmambo Posts: 459Registered User Member
    Does the prestige of an institution even matter any more?

    Now that undergraduate work is a near must in any industry, and now that even more kids are applying for positions at universities everywhere, name-brand recognition means next to nothing.

    I've heard Harvard alums say that the name Harvard opened a door for them, optimistically, 1/10 times they went out for something. It's not where the sheepskin on your wall is from, it's what you did during your time earning it.
  • BIGTWIXBIGTWIX Posts: 2,440Registered User Senior Member
    okay
    so i was going off assumption
    but well
    i do know that it was ranked above brown
    so yeah
  • wutangfinancialwutangfinancial Posts: 808Registered User Member
    No. It's not comparable to any top 50 university in terms of resources, facilities, advising, quality of instruction, funding, etc.

    It's just that it's harder than probably any U.S. school outside of the top 10.
  • drmambodrmambo Posts: 459Registered User Member
    wutang, you're really down on McGill, I've noticed...
  • Student1Student1 Posts: 285Registered User Junior Member
    ^not really. mcgill is a good school, but it really has some glaring flaws to it that most people really don't even think about.
  • wutangfinancialwutangfinancial Posts: 808Registered User Member
    ^I'm definitely a curmudgeon, and I'd probably complain no matter where I went. Also, I have no intent of transferring, mainly because I love the people I've met at McGill. But McGill as an institution has some serious flaws (the vice chancellor of McGill would agree). Americans tend to be very naive when it comes to Canadian Unis. When something seems too good to be true, it usually is...like most socialist institutions, McGill is better in theory than in reality.
  • an2008an2008 Posts: 83Registered User Junior Member
    Why are you comparing McGill to a "socialist institution"?
  • drmambodrmambo Posts: 459Registered User Member
    Well, perhaps this may come as a shock to you, but most of the kids around where I live pretty much understand that no school is perfect. Every school has its blemishes. Pointing them out is useful, but shining a spot light on them, however, isn't as useful as one could imagine (it just becomes an eye-sore).

    It's also nice to sometimes talk about the good of institutions, instead of the bad all the time. Think positive imaging and projecting. Remember, if an institutional was TRULY horrible, people would stop attending, or transfer out once they realized what was up (even the lowest of the low have redeeming qualities).

    In McGill's case, they don't see to have a retention problem with first year students, so I can't imagine anything happening behind the scenes is that much different than advertised.

    Anything I said has the possibility of being wildly false, but I just don't see how numbers can lie.

    p.s. if your goal is to educate the Americans, I sincerely suggest you make a thread and ask a moderator to make it a sticky.
  • chrisiskeychrisiskey Posts: 186Registered User Junior Member
    McGill certainly does have some flaws. I don't know what kinds of criteria they use for evaluating applicants for scholarships. I scored a 2380 on the new SAT, was ranked 1st in my class from a public school in Nova Scotia, and had some very original extracurricular activities, such as working at a community centre for gay youth organizing trips/retreats, delivering homophobia workshops at schools and workplaces, and developing resources for school curriculum development. I also was in the top youth wind ensemble in Nova Scotia as 1st trumpet and did volunteer work helping kids learn to read and write in French. I was accepted by Harvard with a full ride guaranteed for four years. McGill gave me $3,000 renewable. BS.
  • thedoverdemonthedoverdemon Posts: 225Registered User Junior Member
    McGill suffers from severe underfunding, so maybe that's why it's so stingy with its money?
  • brooklynmombrooklynmom Posts: 181Registered User Junior Member
    McGill is incredibly hard. Not so easy to make top grades there-
    No inflation of grades like the Ivys i nthe US.
    It is a top notch school -if you get in , you will have to WORK.
    I am proud that my son chose McGill where he is challanged and not a US IVY where in many cases he would not have been so challanged.
    Your choice.
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