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12-06-2005, 11:23 AM
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#1 | | Junior Member
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| Econ 401
I already have AP credit for 101 and 102
Now I've heard that usually people majoring in Econ move onto 401 and 402 because a lot of the 300 level courses has 401/402 as pre reqs
I also hear that this is one of the hardest classes.
So...anyone with any experience? | 
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12-07-2005, 11:10 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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| No experience, but a pre-business advisor said that it is the toughest of the econ classes. She said it screws over many people's GPA's. That's all I know about it. | |
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12-07-2005, 01:18 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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| Econ 401 is not a hard class. My roommate is taking it and he says it's really easy. I'd take it this coming semester but I'd rather just take a couple fun seminars and minicourses instead. I have plenty of time to work on my econ major. There actually aren't any 300-level econ courses that require 401 as a prereq, that's why they're 300-level classes, lol. Economics guys are pretty logical so they wouldn't do that. If you want to take a 300-level course, take it before 401. However, if none interest you, just take 401. It's not hard. My roommate says 340 is about 10 times harder. I would recommend not taking 340. International=icky. | |
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12-09-2005, 02:27 AM
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| A couple of fun semesters? Aren't you taking 18 credits this semester? | |
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12-10-2005, 06:51 AM
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#5 | | Super Moderator
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| Econ 401 (intermediate Micro Economics) is not a very difficult class, but it is certainly not easy. It assumes that the student is comfortable with basic math (Calculus I and statistics) and well versed in introdictory principles of Economics. | |
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12-12-2005, 12:44 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| I take 18 credits every semester. Every credit between 12 and 18 is free knowledge, so why would I take any less than 18? I have to make my experience worth that out of state tuition! | |
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12-14-2005, 08:50 AM
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#7 | | New Member
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| I had econ 401. like what alexandre said, is not a very difficult class, but it is certainly not easy. The trick is to know your stuff one at a time before going to the next.
Econ 401 is kinda cumulative. The latter chapters recycle a lot of the earlier chapters. If you have trouble with the earlier chapters, my advice is for you to copy and paste the earlier chapters into your brain before even thinking of moving on. Else, 401 could be worse than game theory.
Game theory, which is econ 409, for the record, is definately the hardest econ course there is in Michigan for an undergrad. it's so messed up that half of my class got D.
Yup. D. Not a pretty grade. | |
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12-14-2005, 08:55 AM
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#8 | | Senior Member
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| I'm sorry to read that game theory is one of the hardest classes. My daughter can't wait to take that class. | |
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12-22-2005, 09:46 PM
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| I think 403 was the hardest Econ course I took, but I guess it really depends on who you have as an instructor. | |
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12-22-2005, 11:05 PM
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#10 | | Super Moderator
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| Monetary Economics with Kimball was pretty hard. Game Theory and Econometrics are not that easy either. | |
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12-23-2005, 04:07 AM
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| the only problem with miles kimball is that his boring. He looks brilliant but boring. When I had 402 with him, my god, I struggled just to stay up. it doesn't help when lecture was after lunch. | |
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12-23-2005, 08:38 PM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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| I'm glad to hear 409 and 406 are tough because they're the classes I want to focus on for undergrad. I'm hoping to pursue game theory throughout grad school and possibly research one day, so I'm glad Michigan's course is really tough. Booyah! | |
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12-23-2005, 08:57 PM
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#13 | | Super Moderator
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| Chibearsfan, given your wizardry with Math, I doubt any Econ class you take will be "tough". Maybe if you take some graduate level Econ classes. | |
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12-24-2005, 09:30 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member
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| Sadly, Alexandre, the math department seems to be the only one that really pushes for its undergrads to take grad classes. To get an honors degree in math, you need over 50% of your coursework to be grad work, but I haven't found this to be remotely true for any other major, and this kind of disappoints me. I'm hoping I'll have room in my schedule for a grad-level econ course or two though. | |
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12-24-2005, 11:20 PM
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#15 | | Senior Member
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| chibearsfan, there are tons of graduate courses in econ an undergrad can take.
401, 402, 405, 406, 409, 435 etc. | |
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