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08-07-2009, 09:13 AM
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#2 | | Junior Member
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Good for West Point. Alas, as has been documented in multiple threads such as this one New Forbes college rankings: some surprises,
the methodology is laughable. The individual behind the rankings, is someone named Richard Vedder. Having just scanned his list of publications, I note that he never published in any of the top journals in his field. It is not a surprise, therefore, that he would produce such a deficient methodology. People can debate the merits of other methodologies such as the revealed preference method of Avery et al., but the latter are light years ahead of Vedder.
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08-07-2009, 09:26 AM
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#3 | | Member
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Any college ranking system that lists Johns Hopkins as #173 is seriously flawed.
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08-07-2009, 09:29 AM
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#4 | | CC Senior Advisor
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Interesting comments at the end of the NYT article.
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08-07-2009, 09:54 AM
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#5 | | Member
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wow this is almost as bad as that payscale survey they blogged about a few weeks ago.
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08-07-2009, 09:56 AM
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#6 | | Member
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Free education tied to a 4-year armed-services obligation, not my idea of a #1 college.
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08-07-2009, 09:57 AM
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#7 | | Member
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"equally determined by enrollment-adjusted entries in Who’s Who in America"
Oh my!
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08-07-2009, 10:32 AM
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#8 | | Member
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What is Annapolis doing wrong?!
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08-07-2009, 10:33 AM
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#9 | | New Member
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Well that's not hard to believe if 20% of their ranking is average indebtedness after college. Whether you agree with their methodology for ranking the "best" colleges or not, they seem to have done a good job according to their methodology.
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08-07-2009, 10:35 AM
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#10 | | Junior Member
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Oh no, the Ivies aren't the first 8 listed so this automatically means Forbes is retarded! </ends sarcasm>
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08-07-2009, 11:30 AM
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#11 | | Junior Member
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"Oh no, the Ivies aren't the first 8 listed so this automatically means Forbes is retarded! </ends sarcasm>"
Haha, yeah, no freakin' kidding.
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08-07-2009, 11:41 AM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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No one claimed what the above two have referenced. Most criticized the list for its methodology not for its results.
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08-07-2009, 11:44 AM
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#13 | | Senior Member
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With that said, the apparent absurdity of some of the placements of outstanding schools is strongly suggestive of a skewed methodology.
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08-07-2009, 12:01 PM
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#14 | | New Member
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Well, West Point would obviously be far from tops for pure academia. But few schools produce students with the kind of discipline and work ethic that USMA does. Kids at the conventional top schools don't have the willpower to make it to 8AM classes, West Point kids have to be ready in uniform at 6 AM. And discipline and work ethic are just as important at success in life as academic prowess.
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08-07-2009, 12:36 PM
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#15 | | Member
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LOL, so many annoyed people.
My school on USNews is in the top 50, but according to Forbes its in the 170's. That's a big difference...
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