Linnlew

Can anyone tell me about this school and their Bachelor of Music (Voice Performance) program? Somehow it is linked to Case Western.

thumper1

Linnlew...my information about CIM is old but here is what I recall (and from a while ago). CIM is a stand alone conservatory. BUT students from Case Western "can" take lessons at CIM. I'm not sure what the arrangement is for that (do they have to audition, do they take lessons from grad students?, etc.). I also believe CIM students can take classes at Case, but the conservatory students I knew didn't do so...they were at CIM for the conservatory experience only. I'm sure there is someone else on this board with more current information.

Is there anything on the CIM website about this?

violadad

Linnlew, there's a previous CIM thread here CIM/Case Western Pros and Cons largely focused on instrumental performance, but has some insights on the CIM/Case aspects.

Linnlew

Thanks Violadad,

That did give me some insight. WOW...they too are expensive!

musicianmom

CIM and Case Western Reserve are two separate institutions. At the undergrad level, CIM grants a BM. Case awards its music students a BA in Music or B. S. in Music Ed.

There is a great deal of cooperation between the two schools. CIM is adjacent to the Case campus. CIM students take their liberal arts requirements at Case, enrolling through CIM as CIM students. Case music students take theory at CIM, although the sequence is not the same as the sequence that CIM students take. Music history is taught by Case professors with both CIM and Case students in the same class. Case students study their instruments with CIM professors. The performing ensembles are separate.

We know many students at CIM. A few have completed the CIM/Case double degree which is a 5 year program leading to degrees from both insitutions. I am told that unless a student is enrolled in the double degree, there is little interaction between CIM and Case students.

As a CIM student, the ability to choose from all the Case course offerings for the liberal arts requirements gives many more options for completing liberal arts requirements than some of the other stand alone conservatories that offer only their own sequence of humanities courses.

musicianmom

Linnlew, just remembered that your D is a singer with all the requiste language requirements/concerns. CIM voice students take Italian, German and French through Case. Again, they register as CIM students through the CIM registration process - and pay only through CIM!

musicianmom

Re Thumpers comments. CIM students can elect to complete an academic minor in a subject area by completing Case courses, possibly above and beyond those requred for CIM's gen ed/leberal arts requirements. I don't know how popular that option is - if a student has a lot AP's that will count toward gen ed/ liberal arts requirements, it might be doable. Students are still considered CIM students for purposes of registration, payment and diploma.

Linnlew

OK. Thank you. All of this information is a big help!

nasi

My dd auditioned at CIM on Jan 20th for oboe performance. The audition day was very organized and ran very smoothly. We were impressed with the facilities and the instructors. Nancy

binx

My S auditioned at CIM 4 years ago, and was extremely well cared for! He went alone, as we lived out of the country at the time. They were really helpful - everything from helping us arrange transportation, to even allowing us to switch audition dates. I felt really bad when he had to turn them down. They gave him a nice scholarship, but still would have been the most expensive of his options.

I had gone with him during the summer to a trial lesson. We were treated very well then, too. I really liked the school. My S liked it well enough to apply to, but it was his least favorite of the four. The teacher he would have studied with has since moved on, so for that reason alone I'm glad S didn't go there.

Cleveland Orchestra seems to do a lot of their hiring from CIM. Makes sense - the teachers come from there, and therefore have a lot of input over the "sound" they want.

violadad

binx wrote: <Cleveland Orchestra seems to do a lot of their hiring from CIM. Makes sense - the teachers come from there, and therefore have a lot of input over the "sound" they want.>

For what it's worth, CIM has long been called the "farm team" of the Cleveland Orchestra. There's a history of the collaboration that makes study with certain instructors and instruments very attractive for students wanting to pursue that option.