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05-03-2008, 07:26 AM
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| NYU Steinhardt for music performance?
Are there any Steinhardt musicians who could share their experience? How does NYU measure up to the New York conservatories (Julliard, Mannes, MSM) in terms of faculty (many seem to ovelap...are they all part timers?); level of students; playing opportunities? Does it compare with Northwestern, Oberlin, UMich for blending academics with performance? double degree possibilities? Scholarships? I'm trying to make a list for a friend's D (flute + piano) who wants a city school, but not necessarily a stand-alone conservatory. | 
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05-03-2008, 07:48 AM
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| I know several students - piano, viola, violin - who were accepted to Steinhardt and not to Northwestern, Oberlin and definitely not Juilliard. My impression from knowledge of these students' playing (at least at the time of their auditions) is that Steinhardt's level is lower than the other places you list. | |
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05-03-2008, 08:12 AM
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| thanks, musicianmom, did any of those students decide to attend Steinhardt? If so, do you know how they've fared? | |
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05-03-2008, 09:53 AM
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| Piano and viola students did. They loved their New York experience and Steinhardt was a good match for them musically. | |
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05-03-2008, 12:06 PM
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| As a performance only program, Steinhardt is usually listed last behind the other NYC Conservatories. Academically and for music ed it is one of the best. We have a friend, a talented jazz musician, who left Steinhardt because of the lackluster performance opportunities. But it might be the right balance for someone who is not primarily interested in being a performer. | |
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05-04-2008, 09:58 PM
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| Does anyone know how the Musical Theatre program stacks up as far as the quality of vocal training? I read that their goal is primarily to develop the vocal instrument. Is there a straight Voice Performance program available or must a student choose Musical Theatre? | |
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05-04-2008, 10:27 PM
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| My D will be attending NYU as a vocal performance major (MT) in the fall. NYU offers both a musical theatre or classical track for their vocal performance majors at Steinhardt. Performance opportunites in both MT and opera are available to all vocal performance majors. Both concentrate on voice, but MT offers more dance and acting requirements. It is a BM program, so a large requirement of the program includes courses in theory, ear training, and composition that are required for all BM degreee candidates at Steinhardt.
D chose NYU after attending their summer program which was taught by their regular faculty. She was very impressed. She is a strong and well-rounded student and felt that NYU gave her the chance to grow as a vocalist while persuing academics (music and otherwise). She feels that a degree from NYU will be well regarded in any path she takes. | 
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05-05-2008, 09:01 AM
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| Is there also a MT program at Tisch? | |
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05-05-2008, 09:09 AM
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| The Cap21 MT program is at Tisch. | |
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05-05-2008, 10:52 AM
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| Apparently YMMV
At least from the jazz side of things, I know several NYC musicians - piano and percussion - (all playing city clubs since high school and some the kids of pros) who chose Steinhardt and were very happy with their choice. (Of course, they didn't depend upon the school for their performance opps - they already had a plate full of gigs, bands and contacts.)
Did sense that that were particularly interested in the more academic and music ed. aspects of the school as something that enhanced their overall ability to earn a living from music.
Also am acquainted with the parents of a couple of top HS juniors with lots of performance chops (one of whom is in the both the Grammy Band and Monteray Jazz Fest's Next Generation Jazz Orchestra). Last i heard (this past fall), both were leaning towards NYU. | |
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05-05-2008, 11:17 AM
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| We know the same kid (LOL!)! (Actually, I don't know him, but my son does)
I don't think he is going to NYU though...
NYU seems to be a mixed bag. Kids we know select MSM or New School for jazz over NYU, unless they are looking for the "broader", non-conservatory college experience. However, NYU jazz appears to be stronger than the classical performance division, at least on rep or word on the street. Again individual MMV.
But I am certain there are gigging opportunities aplenty for NYU jazz students! | |
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05-05-2008, 11:23 AM
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| sorry, what's YMMV, MMV? I've finally learned how to put things in quotes, but haven't mastered the rest of the lingo here... | |
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05-05-2008, 11:26 AM
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| Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV)
MMV is the same thing (I just included the word individual before that)!  | |
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05-05-2008, 06:28 PM
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| ^
yeah, lots has happened since I last spoke to his folks in the fall and future plans are fluid to say the least for HS Juniors.
Point was this kid is about as good it gets, he has a world of opportunities and he wasn't thinking NYU was beneath him. | |
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