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Old 12-06-2011, 10:14 AM   #16
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Kedstuff- would you mind if I sent you a PM with some CM questions? I feel the way you do- college degree is critical. Carnegie Mellon is at the top of my list and my son loved Barbara MacKenzie-wood, but the low acceptance rate requires we make serious looks elsewhere. We are very tied to USC. My husband went there and the family bleeds cardinal and gold ( 4th straight water polo nat champs!) We go to see the shows.The musicals are good but you can tell there are always several leads that are not vocally well trained. The MT minor has vocal training- but not much. The acting BFA has a low acceptance rate and the other programs are non-audition. We plan to visit the program and ask these questions but I just don't see how it can compete with some of these other MY majors.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:03 PM   #17
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theatremomma, I just had a long (probably too long!) post disappear but I'll try to recreate at least some of it. So frustrating! Anyway, I think there's probably some truth to what your friend told you, but it's just SOME truth and not the whole truth of the situation. There can be connections made at probably all schools but there's no question that some schools 'do it better' than others. It isn't surprising that the opportunities for exposure to industry professionals is going to be better in NYC and L.A. than it is elsewhere. That isn't to say that it won't happen elsewhere, just not to the same extent.

I've read through the years here on CC posts where parents and students talk about wonderful guest artists/master classes at various schools, and I agree that these are a terrific experience for students. Not only are they terrific for the possible connections but also for the experience/learning/exposure to these professionals. The difference between the availability of these experiences is that at some schools, these events may happen a few times during the course of the school year. My daughter's experience in NYC was that it was not unusual to be a weekly occurrence. The other part of that equation is that many industry professionals come to see the college productions in NYC, and likely in L.A. This isn't to say that it won't happen in other cities but it won't be to the same extent.

Connections are just one piece of the puzzle, though, but an important piece. Not every kid will take advantage of the opportunity to make connections, and so not everyone will reap the same kind of benefit from them, but it can be an important part of a young actor's career so it's wise to keep it in mind. There are two schools that many of the people I know of in the business feel do a good job at this even though they are not on either coast, and they are CMU and Northwestern.

Susan is right that making connections and getting a degree are not mutually exclusive. In my opinion, a degree is something which every young actor should have. An education is never a waste and the training is essential for most to have a sustained career as an actor. I would not recommend that any young actor forego a college education.

Being able to have a good, sustained career on the stage without the education and training provided during the college years is rare. Heck, a good and sustained career on the stage *period* is rare, even with a degree and excellent training. Of the hundreds of young actors I know, after having family and friends in this crazy business for decades, I can think of only a few who have been able to achieve this without getting a college education.

One is 26 and has appeared in four Broadway plays, has received a Tony nomination for one performance and won a Drama Desk award for another. She has ~50 film and TV credits in her bio and continues to be in demand in all three areas. She began as a child actor and is truly exceptional.

The other is 31 and currently in his fourth Broadway production. He began at age 19 in an Equity tour and has worked steadily every since. He's also a musician, with CDs released, and continues to play gigs in NYC on the nights that his show is dark. Interestingly, his wife who also has four Broadway credits and a Tony win, is now a regular on a popular TV show. She attended CCM.

So, there really is no method to this madness!
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:42 PM   #18
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USC worked for one actress

You may want to look up an article in a recent Daily Trojan( the student paper). A girl who recently graduated from USC landed a big part in the new "Bring it On the Musical". It was an interesting story of how she'd go to school,and audition. This is in spite of USC not having a musical theater degree. She's about to go on the national tour.
The opportunities there are endless. And kids who already have agents are able to go to school and work.One of the cast members of the new Hunger Games movie is a theater student. One of the twins from Desperate Housewives is a theater students. Lilly Collins is a communications major. There are constant visits from industry professionals from in front of and behind the camera to campus. Plus, you can even stalk the red carpet for the SAG awards from USC grounds.
The music school is top notch, no reason an acting student could not continue voice lessons.
Yes,There are 500 kids in the school of theater. But, as we heard a student say at a parent orientation:" You can be a big fish in a small pond, or learn to swim with the sharks". If you can get cast in a show there, what a feather in your cap.
There is always a school of theater musical, students put on several musicals a year, and there are many competative accapella groups. Plus, your kid gets football games, sororities, beaches, and trips to Disneyland. It's a pretty cool deal.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:07 PM   #19
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Thanks Lucymom. A lot to think about.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:10 PM   #20
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and... we have season football tickets and Disneyland Annual Passes. We're all set!
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Old 05-03-2012, 07:01 AM   #21
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^ this is an old thread from 2010. Hopefully he decided to attend college.
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