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Old 04-19-2012, 09:02 PM   #16
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I was wondering if it makes sense to check the Common Data Set for each school D is interested in, and at least use her 2 choices for schools that consider student interest in the school (some schools indicate that student interest is NOT a factor in their admissions decisions). Then she just needs to decide for those that consider it whether she should go for reach or merit aid schools. As others have done, maybe one of each. But it doesn't seem worthwhile to use them for schools that say they don't even consider student interest.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:08 PM   #17
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I'm detecting a potential amount of confusion here. The opportunity to name two schools for the reporting service is not the same as the requirement that an NMF report a school as first choice in order to qualify for a scholarship.

As was mentioned, this is simply a chance to indicate an early interest in a couple of schools. It has the chance of being the kind of contact that warrants increased priority from a school because it flags interest from a student with validated evidence of high ability. Thus I don't think it ought to be inferred that a school that usually pays no attention to demonstrated interest will ignore this means of contact, too. On the other hand it is likely that a school that pays little attention to NM awards in general (e.g., very selective schools) also will not respond to this.

IMO, it easily is possible to over think this. No school is going to put a lot of stock in preliminary interest signaled one year in advance of a decision.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:36 PM   #18
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That strategy is what was done at our house -- Selected 2 schools that "interest" is a factor and that my son may not be able to visit. Don't know if it will help, but it certainly can't hurt
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:54 PM   #19
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Do UCs even care about demonstrated interest? Would they even take it into account if you send your recommendations to UCs?
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:47 PM   #20
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Once we submit the names, is it possible to change them?
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:54 AM   #21
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My DD's principal had the student's who were in the 50,000 group stand up for recognition at the weekly Monday student assembly yesterday. DD was named (PSAT 222). Thank goodness, because we have not received the letter at home yet, although her friend who was also named got hers at home last Friday. And we have been considering colleges such as OU and UA who are generous to NMFs, optimistic that she will make the cut (219 in TX last year).

I'll be checking the mailbox today for sure.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:56 AM   #22
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Common Data Set

Where does one find this Common Data Set?
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:28 PM   #23
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The Common Data Set (CDS) is a document with a standard format and content by which a school can post its "vital statistics" such as application and enrollment data, retention and graduation rates, test score and grade ranges, financial aid statistics, school expenditures, popularity of majors, etc. Once you get used to the format you can quickly find most of the essential "hard data" about a school, and it is usually the most up-do-date source, too, as most of the major Web data sites (like U.S. News) often lag by a year or more. Usually on a school's site you can find older CDS, too, and so see if there have been recent trends in statistics of interest.

Here, for example, is Harvard's: http://www.provost.harvard.edu/insti...n_data_set.php

-- Google "<school name> Common Data Set" and you'll probably get a hit at the top of the first page of the results.

-- Failing this, go to the school Website and search for "Common Data Set". This will often yield a hit, too, but you might have to filter out links to other research results and commentaries.

-- Failing this, search the school site for "Institutional Research" (or similar) and find the site of the school department responsible for internal monitoring. Typically Common Data Sets are there, if anywhere. You can keep an eye open for "Fact Books", too, as they often have similar data.

-- Even though by agreement they are required to make this data public, some schools simply don't post this document (WUSTL and Occidental, for example), and that is a shame, but most do comply.

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Old 04-24-2012, 05:18 PM   #24
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^^^Great to know, thank you.

The mailbox yielded no letter. Is anyone else who knows they should qualify for top 50,000 still waiting for their letter?
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:06 PM   #25
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We got our letter last week. Still mulling over what two schools to pick. I doubt the UCs in CA care about them.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:37 PM   #26
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Son got his letter in TX on Friday. Anyone know if we pick two schools now can we change them by a certain date or is it final?
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:06 PM   #27
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According to my kid's letter, you can change your picks any time up to the response deadline of May 23, 2012.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:06 AM   #28
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^Thanks chucktaylor, I was not sure if the letter meant we could change our October's choice or if we had till May 23 to change our minds.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:19 AM   #29
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So, UCs don't care about these recommendations? I mean I know they are glorified forms of demonstrated interest, but can anyone here confirm or deny? Would I be better off skipping sending them to UCs and only to privates?
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:33 PM   #30
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Should I be worried if I havent gotten a letter yet? What do I do? This is a mess, my mom wont listen to my request for her to leave our dog in the back, so that they mailman will deliver, Im sure he throws my mail away Im missing out on a decent chunk of mail
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