Appointments - Class of 2012 - Page 2

peskemom · 10-16-2007, 12:19 PM

NativeTexan....
I can't speak for what will happen now with a new Supe...but I can tell you what Class of 2010 legacy folk experienced. You have to know that we had no idea there were 'perks'. At Plebe Parent Weekend we got a special invitation to a party at the Alumni House - open only to Alumni and legacy families. We met many legacy families including Sharon Disher - who has twins in 2010. Sharon is one of the original female class, and wrote "First Class". We also received and attended the Superintendant's Home for a private breakfast. Only the highest ranking friends and Academy folk and legacy parents attended. I never dreamed we'd be invited to spend about 2 hours in the Supe's home as lowly Plebe parents. Neither did hubby. But I enjoyed relaxing in the family room having a one on one time with Admiral Rempt's wife. I looked over all her family photos and we talked about each one. I also had never been in the presence of that much military brass from every single branch of the military - clearly up from Wash DC for the breakfast party. Then both at PPW and again at Hernon Week legacy parents get special seating assignments for the formal dress parade. We sat in comfortable shade with pre-seating relaxation instead of beating the crowds for a good seat. We met up with many legacy families under the canopy.

I have to say I enjoyed this - and yes, it's a perk - but I will never make that an issue with other families. I know that 'pride comes before a fall' and the last thing I want to do is sound like a boasting idiot.

I am simply answering that - in the past- at times USNA went out of their way to honor legacy families and while I appreciated the honor - if it never happens again we will be just as happy, just as grateful and just as proud of our daughter and her decision to attend USNA and serve our great country.

Oh....and if a mid has ANY brains at all - this whole 'legacy' thing is NEVER MENTIONED by them. Any hint of bilgeing one's classmates would be immediately dealt with. My kiddo never mentions it . It comes in the same category if a mid came with either prior enlisted experience, or NAPS or ROTC or came from a steller CAP or JrROTC background. No one cares about your past - it's the NOW that counts so the basic attitude is: shut up and do what you're told to do

I have no idea if the Cadre knows these facts about their charges. I am in contact with one former Class of 2007 Cadre - it's an interesting question to ask sometime.

GreatAmerican · 10-16-2007, 12:27 PM

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Being a 'legacy dad' is alot of fun, we've learned it first hand

Just curious why that should make any difference once at USNA. Are not all Midshipmen treated equally no matter what their "heritage" is? Can understand a Prior being font and center but a legacy? ...

Peskemom means that having a legacy midshipman is funs for the parents not the midshipman. All plebes are treated equally in that they get the mushroom treatment. Don't forget that VADM Fowler is running a benevolent dictatorship.

Backups include: RPI, UVA, George Washington, University of South Florida (Clearwater Christian), Pensacola Christian.

JustAMomOf4 · 10-16-2007, 12:35 PM

Is USMA out of the picture now? Has she considered it might be easier to get medical school directly from USMA than from USNA?

GreatAmerican · 10-16-2007, 12:39 PM

My daughter still has an LOA from West Point but USNA is her first choice. USNA to USUHS to Medical Corps; at least that's her plan.

USNA1985 · 10-16-2007, 12:45 PM

Congrats. Don't think I've heard of anyone getting an appointment this early. A real tribute to your daughter and her family.

USNA Dad&Grad · 10-16-2007, 12:47 PM

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Friends son at WP had active duty General's daughter in same squad* during plebe* year, he visited often - was not a good experience for any in the squad*, let alone this young lady.

Dunno about "squad", but WP freshmen are "Plebes" as well. "Doolies" at USAFA...

usna09mom · 10-16-2007, 12:54 PM

Time for the old joke:

What do West Point cadets and Navy midshipmen have in common?
They all got appointments to West Point!

JustAMomOf4 · 10-16-2007, 01:14 PM

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My daughter still has an LOA from West Point but USNA is her first choice. USNA to USUHS to Medical Corps; at least that's her plan.

Good for her - I hope she gets it. Many congratulations to her!

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What do West Point cadets and Navy midshipmen have in common?
They all got appointments to West Point!

I have heard that was an "old joke" --here is a true story:
My daughter wanted West Point since she was 13. I wanted her to check out USNA and USAFA. Her date to her junior prom applied to USNA, USMA and USAFA. His first choice was USNA - he is a plebe there this year. Was rejected by USMA and USAFA.
She thought she would apply to USNA as a backup to USMA. Kinda convoluted thinking because IMO no academy should be seen as a "back up" to any other! Anyway - her USNA rejection didn't really bother her. She got what she wanted too!

USNA Dad&Grad · 10-16-2007, 01:30 PM

usna09mom & JustAMomOf4

LOL

My oldest son didn't even get a nod from the ALO for Air Force - she phoned him up to tell him that USAFA was not right for him a couple of days after his interview. I told him that I would rather see him in jail than at USAFA - Just kidding (sort of)

He was appointed to WP first in January '06 , and then USNA in February '06.

You just never know...

NativeTexan · 10-16-2007, 01:42 PM

Thanks Peskemom
I kind of thought you meant for the "parents" but was not sure. You are correct on the if they had any brains....

GA looks like she has some good back up plans. Cheers to her!

Profmom2 · 10-16-2007, 01:55 PM

USNA recruiter at of all places Experimental Aircraft Fly in in Oshkosh WI all said tounge and cheek when asked about USNA flying vs other Academies: "You can go to USMA and crawl through the dirt, You can go to AFA and possibly end up flying a desk or go Navy and possibly fly an airplane or pilot a ship. Much more adventure and see the world!"

Found the line great when asked about why he is at USNA and not USAFA with wanting to be a pilot.

In the end only applied USNA - wanted it all!

peskemom · 10-16-2007, 02:06 PM

One thing we did learn about legacy parents...USNA Admissions did a study and the BIGGEST prediction of female retention at USNA is...being a legacy! This is an interesting statistic and it shows that if a daughter of a grad ( male or female) is accepted to USNA and shows up on I-Day, she has a higher than average rate compared to the rest of her female Classmates, of graduating.

USNA69 · 10-16-2007, 03:06 PM

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I told him that I would rather see him in jail than at USAFA - Just kidding

No you're not.

USNA Dad&Grad · 10-16-2007, 03:14 PM

You're right - I'm not. Guilty as charged, hence the "Just kidding (sort of)" comment.

Somehow, I could deal with him being at Army, but the thought of my son at USAFA was not a particularly good one for me.

My dad was Air Force and wanted me to go there, but all my life he told me, "If you're not a pilot in the Air Force, you're not s**t."

I couldn't be a pilot because I didn't have 20/20 - not to mention that I had no desire to fly, so when he asked me why not USAFA, I said, "What have you been telling me my whole life?" He left me alone after that, but always acted as if I somehow betrayed the family legacy...

USNA69 · 10-16-2007, 03:53 PM

Fourteen years ago. My kid was either fly fighters via USNA or Duke premed. He got early acceptance at USNA. He would not make a decision until he heard from Duke. One day I came home to the very unusual meeting at the front door. "Guess what, dad? I just got a letter from AFA. They want me to apply". I told him that I would be honored if he went to USNA or WP and would get used to Duke but if he applied to AFA, he had better give up Duke. When he asked me why, I told him that I was disowning him and he would have to get through Duke, if that was his choice, on his on. He never applied to AFA. From October until April, I had Duke hanging over my head. Early April; "Guess what dad, I just got accepted at Duke". After the immediate financial sinking feeling, I told him he had better call USNA and tell them that he wasn't coming. His reply was that he was going to USNA but he just wanted to always know that he had a choice. I don't think he has ever fully forgiven my reaction to either statement.