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Old 05-05-2008, 07:51 PM   #1
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USNA Candidate Class of 2013. How am I doing?

Hi,

I just got accepted to both the West Point and Annapolis summer seminars. I am a fairly well rounded student with a 5.346 GPA and a 1240 on my SAT (a little rough but I am hoping to improve when I take it again in october)... I missed out on the June 7th SAT because I will be at the Annapolis Seminar.

My schedule this year was:
AP Calc AB
AP Physics B
AP English Language and Composition
AP American History
Spanish IV
Wrestling (Advanced)
Jazz Band

Next Year:
AP Calc BC
AP Chemistry
AP Physics C
AP Spanish
AP Government
AP Economics
AP Literature

I am captain of my Varsity Wrestling team and co-captain of my baseball team. I also run cross-country (varsity but not competitive).

How am I doing? I really am hoping to get into Annapolis, it is my first choice and I want to be a midshipmen. Any suggestions?

I am also worried about my SAT score, I want to improve it but lack time to do it unless I take it in October which is after the deadline of my Nomination request.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:58 PM   #2
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Many will tell you as I am, take the ACTs also. It's a different exam and many do better. That said, I'd say you're doing fine generally. My only advice might be to see if you can persuade your old man to move to Wyoming or Nebraska. Florida is one of the more competitive states.

Good luck. You'll be fine.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:05 PM   #3
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I know what you mean, it's ironic though because we just passed Mississippi for worst in Education. But thank you. I am going to take the next available ACT which is somewhere around the beginning of September. It's unfortunate how much time sports tend to take up out of you're schedule. I need to boost those scores, I know I'm capable, but does anyone know how flexible senators are for reviewing your new scores?

and for that matter, how much getting accepted to the seminar increases your chances of getting in?
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:29 PM   #4
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i don't know how "flexible" they are but if its a sentaor nom. then you're competing with your whole entire state. If you're in Florida, it's a competitive state. You'll probably get your nomination from your congressman instead of senator depending on how many they have. If your district is competitive, it may be hard to get a nomination but if your district is not competitive (some barely get applicants) then it's really easy.

I believe 1/3 of summer seminar people don't apply, 1/3 apply and don't get in, and 1/3 apply and get in (but they still have to choose to go). from what i've heard if you DON'T go to summer seminar it doesn't hurt you. if you go and your squad leader gives you a very positive evaluation then it can help. if you get a bad evaluation it could possibly hurt but this is only the opinion of one person.

but i am not a BGO or usna alumni, so i'm sure someone could give you actual usna policy/answer.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:29 PM   #5
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With that schedule and those credentials, I'm pretty sure you're alright bud.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:14 PM   #6
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All I can really say, is have fun with that schedule next year.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:46 PM   #7
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well put, zrmvrhs08....if you know that you can handle the workload, then it's all good i guess. Just be ready to study EXTRA hard your senior year.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:57 PM   #8
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I all for AP classes etc. Its just you don't want to over extend yourself, you know? The GPA sounds nice, what is it on a 4.0 scale? For the SAT I recommend taking it as many times as you can, they take the highest from any of your test so might as well, its in your favor. Try the ACTs as well you never know if your an ACT or SAT type person. Keep up with sports, it sounds great. Just don't wear yourself too thin, you don't want to tire out in the middle of the year. Goodluck!
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:29 PM   #9
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Thanks guys. I really appreciate your help.

im gonna ride it out, and probably drop AP spanish.

yea, my un-weighted is 3.91 on a 4.0 and the 5.346 is with the weight, but we all know that the GPA doesn't count for much other than class ranking (which many schools are getting rid of). Good luck for everyone that is applying.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:34 PM   #10
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Yeah tique, I replied to your other question in the other thread you made.

Summer Seminar does give you a slight advantage on the rest of the applicant field because you'll already have a candidate number and you won't have to submit a preliminary application. USNA already feels you're somewhat qualified, so that's why you got a NASS slot. As for the evaluations, many people who get bad evals don't usually end up applying, just by looking at some statistics. Those who got the bad evals really turned out to not be interested in coming to USNA halfway through NASS. Poor evals are not commonplace and you have to be REALLY bad to get one. Favorable comments and a ranking of "5" during NASS will put you on USNA's radar screen as a highly qualified candidate.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:18 AM   #11
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Tique, looking excellent, man. Just stay alive with that schedule next year...
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:10 AM   #12
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Tique, I can only share what worked for my plebe. His curriculum was not as challenging as yours, though he did have 3 APs this year. He did well, A's and B's. He played a sport and was a member of student council his senior year. He did pretty well on the SAT, with a 1390 (2070). But what set him apart were his out of school activities, including jobs that exhibited leadership and lots of volunteer work, including challenging things like soup kitchens and hospice work. Your academic/high school career is not the only indication of your potential success at USNA.
Incidentally, my son was NOT accepted to NASS, but received his appointment quite early on in the process. I think acceptance to NASS is strongly influenced by your geographical location.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:41 PM   #13
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Thanks for the input Plebemom,

I really hope to do well on my next SAT, but I am glad to here of your sons success. You will have to keep me informed on how your son is doing at the Academy. I've been reading over the daily rates for plebes, and all I can say is that it is an intense life-style. I really would like to know how feels about the Academy when he gets there.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:47 PM   #14
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Intensity?

I've been working out in my off-season to kinda prep for NASS, what should I expect at the academy. I asked the same question to one of the Admissions officers who said with a smile on her face, "I guess you'll find out". I've heard some mixed emotions from some of the applicants from the West Point seminar but not a qualified "it was intense" or it was "a summer program". I want to do well on my evaluation... anything in particular I should know how to do before I get there? (besides the qualifications for the CFA).
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:20 PM   #15
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I didn't go, but I would say have a good attitude and be a leader. That's basically what they are looking for.. (right?)
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