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Old 10-05-2009, 10:12 PM   #1
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Triple Qualified and Need Advice

Daughter just heard from her BGO with the good news that she is 3Qd. She was planning on training for the CFA to better her score from NASS. At NASS she maxed situps and pushups and came in average for the others; HOWEVER, we noticed the posted averages have changed and now she is below average in 2 events and wants to work on those in particular. Should she still do that? Would her application go before the Board again w/ improved scores? Is there any negative to trying to redo the scores? Is there any advice as to the timing of when she should have these new scores sent in? Thank you.
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:28 PM   #2
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Triple qualified means:
1. Whole person, including academics, sports, CFA, ECAs, is evaluated as satisfactory.
2. Medical, per DoDMERB - acceptable (or any problem is waiverable, like eyesight - within certain limitations)
3. The candidate has 1 or more Nomination sources

How the rating of the first item stacks up to others is the big issue, and a candidate does not need to let things "ride". The candidate can (and should!!) try to improve scores - redo the CFA if possible, re-take SATs (or ACT ...or try to do both!!).
If the candidate is taking college classes at college - submit transcripts when the Fall semester is completed (and of course - strive to get top grades!)

AFAIK - there is no downside to striving to do better - in fact, it sends a signal that the candidate is not content to "rest on his/her laurels" - but is trying to improve!!! But - like SAT & ACT scores, things need to be completed and submitted by the end of December to have it help.

Good luck to your daughter.

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Old 10-07-2009, 03:35 PM   #3
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Quote:
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Triple qualified means:
1. Whole person, including academics, sports, CFA, ECAs, is evaluated as satisfactory.
2. Medical, per DoDMERB - acceptable (or any problem is waiverable, like eyesight - within certain limitations)
3. The candidate has 1 or more Nomination sources
That is incorrect.

3Q is:

1. Scholastically qualified. (grades, transcripts, SAT/ACT, ECs, etc)
2. Physically qualified. (passes the CFA)
3. Medically qualified. (meets DODMERB accession standard)

The term "Triple Qualified" has nothing to do with having a nomination.
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Old 10-07-2009, 06:53 PM   #4
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Luigi is correct.
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:11 PM   #5
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But - like SAT & ACT scores, things need to be completed and submitted by the end of December to have it help.
Actually, files can, and should, continue to be updated until March 1.
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:44 PM   #6
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More specifically, until appointment offered, or 01 Mar if no decisions made.

I'm wondering if vineyard's point may be in reference to the last possible date(s) for ACT/SAT taking. I've lost track, but others will know. I believe those may be in Jan or Feb???
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:53 PM   #7
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vineyardmh:
Definitely work on and retake CFA. Son (class of '13) took it at NASS; we were informed he was "Triple Q'd" in Nov 08. He worked hard all fall and wanted to retake, so contacted USNA, gave them coache's email, they sent coach form to fill out and he re-took and re-submitted better results just before Christmas.

I was actually in the Admissions office in Nov while he was at CVW. Asked your same question, "will his app go before the board again if he submits a new CFA?" Answer, "No." They then explained they have a scoring system and would update his score. The Admissions Board does not need to review if CFA scores go up. Makes sense. They cannot revisit each app over and over. I'm sure the system is something like XX points for XX situps, XX points for XX pullups, etc. resulting in a score that becomes part of the WCS.

It looks great to re-take. Shows determination, desire, etc......
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