drum87

I know this is kind of corny, but PRFRMR20 (ps congratulations I'm so jealous), can u post where you live so we can figure out when they sent them. Like if you live in New England, then I know to look in my mailbox like next week, however if you live in California or close to it, I know to keep an eye out for any time now.

PRFRMR20

I live in NJ, so I was probably one of the earlier people to receive it!

GOOD LUCK! but, if you don't get it, that doesn't mean you didn't get in, so don't lose hope!

Hope everything goes well!

-Zal

icedkiwis

YESS!! I GOT IT!!!

4.0+
2260 SAT
salutatorian
went to dramatic writing program during the summer

YESSSS!!!!!!!!

LotteLenya

iced... where do you live? anywhere near NYC???

icedkiwis

yeah on LI--you?

LotteLenya

Western PA... just curious to see if everyone got their invitations this weekend or only those who live near New York

chrisnoo

ok so tisch scholars come in april.

do the ed kids get them as well?

soozievt

Chris, I don't have any official answer for you but my assumption is that Tisch Scholars are made up of students from both ED and RD as that makes sense. I don't know, however, when Scholars from the ED round are notified...if it is in Dec. or April, sorry. My D just got back to NYC tonight from a trip with Tisch Scholars. Tisch Scholars are from all areas of Tisch, not just Drama. There are between 15-20 of them per year. This is NOT a scholarship thing. That is a DIFFERENT thing and a DIFFERENT mailing. I don't know how many Scholars are in Drama but my GUESS is likely not much more than 5.

LotteLenya

soozievt... what were your daughter's statistics in school? Did she have a 4.0, super high SATs, ect?

soozievt

Lotte, I don't post either of my kids' academic "stats" on forums. Overall, I can say that my D was a very good student and had good SATs and SAT2's but none of her "stats" are stratospheric in the terms you mentioned. Selection to Tisch Scholars is not like a numbers game where the highest stats get chosen, or I doubt she'd have been selected. On the discussion forums, we often see kids posting stats when talking of who got in and who didn't (for any colleges). However, for selective colleges, while a student must have the requisite stats in the ballpark of admitted students to that college, once they do, MUCH more is considered. Some less selective schools might rely on numbers and cut offs but with more selective schools, a majority of applicants will have the numbers needed to get in so that is not what sets them apart. At selective schools, you will see kids who got in with an SAT or GPA or rank lower than some kid who was rejected, for instance. Both had stats in the right "range" for the school but much else came into play....essays, personal characterisitics, extracurriculars, achievements, recommendations to name a few.

For Tisch Scholars, the students are selected (I'll quote from parts of the letter) for "oustanding credentials as an applicant."....."Tisch University Scholars Program is an honors and leadership training program for emerging artists and scholars of the highest caliber."....."Incoming University Scholars are selected on the basis of academic and artistic excellence, as well as a demonstrated record of community service and leadership potential." I can't say why my D was selected and we didn't even know such a program existed until receiving the notification of selection. But I know it was not strictly based on stats as hers are surely NOT the highest of ALL applicants, though she had a strong academic record. In retrospect, once we read more about Tisch Scholars, it occurred to us that some of her essays really dovetailed with the kinds of students they were looking for because she described some activities she had done where she was a leader, initiator, and creator as well as service to her community in the arts. Tisch Scholars embodies that same kind of thing so I can see the fit there, though we had no idea at the time of application that such a program existed. There are about 15-18 Scholars chosen from all disciplines within Tisch.

Throughout the year, they participate in an enrichment program of special events, invited speakers, and discussions. Each scholar has to maintain a 3.5 GPA while in the program, and take on leadership roles in student activities and fulfill a community service requirement in the arts in the city each year. Each student participates in two trips fully funded by the program. The trips are cross-cultural encounters. As freshmen, Scholars travel to Appalshop which is in Appalachia in Kentucky, for workshops and creative projects with leaders in that arts community. Besides leadership skills, they explore issues of art, culture, and social change. (My D has led artistic activities in our community that were about social change as well so this really relates). In soph or junior year, each Scholar will go on an international trip with the group (this year was India, next year is Brazil, for example) and work with leaders in the arts there. Being in this program is a commitment. My D just returned from Kentucky last night and all I know so far was that it was a great experience and that the other kids in it became new friends. I hope to hear more today. My D also has an ongoing job in the city working in musical theater programs with youth. So, that is what Tisch Scholars is about. I think other schools at NYU have Scholars programs as well because my D's close friend from HS (my D graduated early after junior year and so her peers are currently in the senior class) just got selected as a Scholar at Stern.

Tisch Scholars is UNrelated to scholarships. No money is involved toward tuition or anything. However, all the trips and other yearly events are fully funded by the program.

The Trustee Scholarship, which we also had no idea that merit aid existed at NYU (that's why I share these things so others can find out about them as we knew nothing about this stuff when my D was an applicant), is about money toward tuition. The Trustee Scholarship was explained to me by someone in the financial aid office. I was told that it is a merit scholarship (you do NOT have to be an applicant for financial aid to receive one and I have seen posters post who got one who were not applying for aid). IF a student who receives a Trustee Scholarship is also a financial aid applicant (as my D was), then the scholarship amount may be higher as need comes into play after being selected for merit.

So, while I am not going to post stats of my children, I can tell you that they were in range for their universities but that other factors came into play for these sorts of selections. Again, I don't know why my kid was picked but she did have strong extracurriculars that were long time commitments, leadership, achievements/awards, good recs, essays that were well written and showed who she was as a person (she also excels at writing), and then there is the artistic talent part and I don't know how she was chosen in that respect. At the Scholars luncheon the Deans talked about their hopes that the students who were Scholars would be future leaders in some capacity in the arts. Leadership potential was a big factor, I believe. So, it is NOT ALL about stats. I'm sure you have to have good ones to be considered but it is not like they took the top stats off the pile in terms of admissions to the university, being selected as a Scholar, OR for the scholarships because I know my D's stats are quite good but not the highest at NYU by any means. That is another reason why posting stats is not that useful. I wouldn't for my kids' privacy anyway but I also see too many posts on other CC forums with merely stats and people analyzing who got in and who didn't and for selective schools, you can't tell by stats alone. Most applicants have the stats in the right ballpark for the college (or else really should not apply) and so lots else is going to be considered since too many students have the requisite stats. Admissions takes a wholistic view. They are accepting PEOPLE, after all.

Susan

eliza'smom

I'm so glad the Saturday in the Square question came up because if I hadn't read about it here, I would not have known what it was all about. My d received her invitation yesterday and the timing was perfect, as it was on the heels of two painful rejections. I tried to tell her what a great sign it is, but she doesn't want to make any assumptions until that acceptance letter is in her hands, so I have been silenced (for the time being)!! Thank you Susan for all the good info. Do you think your d might be present at the event?

soozievt

Eliza'smom, congratulations to your daughter on her acceptance...yes she will be admitted! I know one wants to be cautious in these matters but now you KNOW, this really is IT. I never knew about what Sat. in the Square was or what the invitation meant until shortly before my D got it. When she got it, I knew by then. I was reading about it on CC in fact. My D was in the hospital and there was a computer in her room and I was staying/sleeping there for ten days and sometimes late at night when she fell asleep, I signed on for a diversion from the stress. I read about these invitations. That is how I knew when it came to our house and my husband went home for the night to get the mail and read it to her on the phone. I knew by then what it meant. Had I not read about it, yes, I'd be cautious. But this really is the thing, tell her that. Remember, they aren't going to invite you for an accepted student event that takes place AFTER April 1 when the real letters come out, if you are not accepted. It just would make no sense, who would go then? So, yippee for your D and let us know which studio she gets. Also, this process involves some rejections and hopefully some acceptances and so one balances the other and it is not a contest as to how many she racks up but only that she get into one and that she likes the options she has. Let her know this is NOT an assumption but an indication of an acceptance.

As far as who attends that event...I know nothing of my D being involved. I don't recall loads of current students involved. I recall many who wore special tee shirts who must have signed on to help with the event. As well, I know at the reception for drama students at the Tisch building (this is the second half of the event), there were some drama students to talk with. Also at Tisch Scholars, there were current Scholars who spoke about the program. I don't know if she'll be involved in that luncheon or not. Haven't heard a thing.

Down the line if your D is deciding where to go and needs to talk to a current student, I could pass along her email as I have with others. This week is just too insane and she doesn't have a spare moment it seems to even fit ME in, LOL. But let me know after April 1 if she needs to ask a current student any questions.

Best wishes to your D.
Susan

eliza'smom

Susan,
Yes, absolutely I will take you up on the offer after April 1. (Big sigh of relief...)
Thank you!

drexel6337

I'm just wondering if you aren't able to attend, will it look like you aren't interested and therefore they may give your possible spot to someone else when it really comes time for the cut? Like whoever shows an interest now, will give them an idea how many others to let in. Perhaps I'm thinking too much!

soozievt

Attendance has NO bearing on anything but your own exploration of the school. ALL decisions will have been rendered PRIOR to Saturday in the Square. Admissions and rejections will go out on April 1 and this event is a week later. On NYU's end, the decisions are a done deal. On YOUR end, you are in the driver's seat. No longer are colleges picking YOU but you are picking THEM (if you have a choice of options). The event is to benefit you. It is a chance to learn more, meet others who may attend, etc. There is no impression for you to have to make. There is no cut to come. There is no benefit to showing any interest. Your admission is an offer that can never be taken away. You have until May 1 to let them know if you want to enroll or not. Those not admitted on April 1 will not be admitted later. Their deal is also a done deal. Waitlists are only used if after May 1, less students enroll than they were counting on or need to fill their slots. However, all schools admit more than they will yield and take into account based on past years, how many they need to accept to yield the number they want to have matriculate.

Hope this helps. If you're in, you're in, NO more worries on that front. Go to the event for YOURSELF but not to please or show interest because there is nothing to be gained in that respect. You have to gain for your own need to help you decide where to enroll or if you have already decided to enroll in Tisch, you can just learn more and celebrate and meet people, etc.
Susan