razorback1

We need to remember that loans reduce what you pay, but only temporarily. They shouldn't be considered when looking at your final out-of-pocket. They are still out of pocket, although, later.

Kellster

I just looked at something I thought I remembered from the drama thread last year. Caromom's D got in Tisch but couldn't afford to go but got enough aid from equally expensive and stingy Boston University to swing it. You never know what the different colleges might offer. Now back to my question that got swallowed up. How long is it after the letters come out that you get your scholarship and financial aid stuff or do they come together?

theatermom

Also, those who do not receive aid and are able to pay "full freight" are also contributing to, in truth subsidizing, the costs of those who receive scholarships. This is NOT stated as a criticism, but a fact of life that is part of almost any "business" that provides services to the full economic spectrum of a population.

soozievt

Cloverdale wrote:
"It is not the cost of the school retail but the discounted cost you need to consider."

I could not agree with you more. This is what college counselors counsel clients who are only looking at the retail price tag. What counts is the cost AFTER scholarships/grants, etc. Sometimes a school with a more expensive price tag may end up costing less than a school with a cheaper price tag but a worse aid package. Right now, I have a kid at NYU and one at an IVY and because they are on financial aid, the cost is not nearly the price tag. Razorback, yes of course loans must be paid back. But I, and I think Cloverdale, are talking the discounted price after merit aid, scholarships and grants.

Razorback, when I said that nobody needs to wallow in woe, and you responded that that is not the case for you, I understand, but my posts are not written JUST to you but were expressing thoughts to anyone, unless I specifically wrote a message to you and said so in any part of the post. For instance, I was responding to you in the section about big name schools or nothing and how it made you feel. You also used the term "inferior" as to how you may feel when people post about more well known schools. I was saying it was too bad you come away from posts about well known schools and feel any sense that others made you feel inferior as I am sure that is not the intent. I certainly don't think that students who attend X are better than students who attend Y or that X is the best school of all. I do not even think my own kids' colleges are the best of all but only that they happen to really like them. However, other parts of my posts are general and not specific to anyone unless I indicated as such.

I also was not saying that a rural upbringing or pubic school was equated with poverty. I had mentioned public school in a context that my kids had NO other option (and I'm not sad about it one bit, nor are they) but to attend public school as we could not afford schools that cost tuition. We do not feel inferior or that their experiences were lesser, but that they still got to go on and pursue what they wished and anyone can make it from anywhere.

I can't pay for college out of pocket even if it were one of the less expensive schools you mentioned. I just don't make that kind of money and thus need aid and also loans as I can't pay for one, let alone two at once, while they are attending in a lump sum. Please do not make assumptions about anyone's background as you really do not know. The past few days, I worked at a job that paid me $9/hour. I don't do that job often but I do it sometimes. I think this conversation is getting off track because one, this was a thread about Saturday in the Square and two, cost of college is an IMPORTANT factor for all but upper middle or wealthy people, but other than that, everyone's situation differs and they must weigh what they can or cannot do and what they are willing to do. Just as you say you are not willing to pay for college with loans, someone else may be plus not earn enough to pay for any college no matter the cost upfront while the child is attending. We need to respect all situations and each family must do what they can. Whatever a parent can do, it is ENOUGH. Every parent will do what they can and every child can succeed. It doesn't mean every child can have the same things or same opportunities but I believe those with determination and work ethic can be a success. There are many fine colleges out there where one can receive an education. Go to the ones you can afford and that fit you best. It is the way life is, afterall. We make do with what we have.

soozievt

Kellster, I'm happy to answer your question though I have posted it here before but that is OK. The letters of acceptance came out on April 1. The letter with scholarship and aid came separately but shortly afterward, within the first week of April. The letter about Scholars came in the first week of April too....all these things within a few days of one another but separately. That was last year. I don't work for NYU and can only speak of OUR experience. If needed, call the school to get direct information.

razorback1

Never said I felt inferior, but that some might. I don't feel inferior to anyone anywhere anytime. That would be an insult to God's creation. I didn't mean to make assumptions. Thought I responded to information given in post. I usually don't have time to read your detailed posts in entirety, so maybe I missed something. Sorry.

Kellster

Sooz, Thanks! I must have missed it in one of you looooooong but informative posts. haha So sorry.

wickedone

is there still hope that you have been accepted even if you dont recieve and invitation to Saturday in the Square?

LotteLenya

absolutely. im pretty sure that only a certain number of people are invited probably based simply on a numerical cutoff. i'm assuming most did NOT get the invite.. but, i may be wrong.

edmondsg

Ok, back to S@S, as Tisch_Arts_Rep calls it. I have a hopefully unwarranted but needs-to-be-addressed concern. A very close friend of my son's whom I also know well, who is a freshman MT at Syracuse this year, told him tonight that someone she knows personally received an invitation to last year's Saturday at the Square and was waitlisted. Obviously no one on this board has heard of such a thing, and I sure hope it isn't true. It would kill me if I had given my son wrong information that prompted him (and me) to tell everyone his good news, only to find out otherwise.

I know this isn't going to sit well with you guys, and again, I hope it's urban legend. But I know this girl well (she's a close friend of my son's) and I can't picture her repeating something like this to him that she isn't sure of. Tisch_Arts_Rep, is there a way for you to find out if this has truly happened in the past?

edmondsg

Does NYU even use a waitlist?

Sporti2005

yes, NYU DOES have a waitlist. i was waitlisted last year for NYU/tisch

LotteLenya

that makes me very nervous... ive been telling people too

alwaysamom

edmond, I truly can't imagine that happening. I think your son's friend must be mistaken. The applicants who receive invitations to these events are the students who NYU feels are their top applicants. The purpose of the event is to convince these applicants to accept their offers and attend NYU. Not everyone is invited, so it would make no sense whatsoever for someone who is invited to then be placed on a waiting list. Maybe you can post what the wording was on the invitation? In the past, it's been pretty clear that these invitations are going to the 'top students' in the entering class of 2006, etc.

There have been many posts on the NYU Admissions bulletin board in past years (haven't checked this year) and many phone calls reported here where students have posted/called to inquire and were told that "although it's not a formal offer, good news will be coming their way on April 1." So, as I said, I think your son's friend is mistaken. I've never heard of that happening and my D is now a junior so I've been around for a while, as has Susan, and other moms here with kids at Tisch.

Maybe you should give Admissions a call, if only to ease your mind.

edmondsg

Alwaysamom, everything you've said jives with what I've heard, which is why I have to believe someone gave my child's friend incorrect information.

The wording is the same or similar this year as I've read about from past years -- "for outstanding students in the entering class of 2006".

Hopefully we'll each have the official letter in hand very soon, before we can worry too much about this. I'm not letting it get to me because it contradicts everything I've heard and read, but there's a little voice in my head now that won't let me relax 100%.

Other people have called Admissions, and they say "good news is likely" and so on, but don't don't actually say "you're in". I guess I'm being a bit of a pessimist by giving what is hopefully a rumor any weight at all, but as everyone on this board has, we've been through such an emotional roller coaster it's hard to completely ignore it.

Oh well... everyone think happy thoughts. :-)