soozievt

Jenny, yes, I realize you must have read enough about what Meisner is about to have chosen it as your first choice studio and are seeking some personal anecdotal experiences. I think you are doing the right thing. I just haven't found any Meisner people on this forum and thought if were to contact Tisch or even Meisner studio directly and ask for contacts, that would beneficial. Due to the cost of calling, could you try email first and ask for email contacts and then when you get those, ask some specific questions about Meisner? That's what I suggest trying. There is an straight theater drama section on CC but it is not as active as this MT forum. But if you look on the forum for ARTS MAJORS there is an ongoing thread about colleges for theater/drama and it is on about Part 8 or so as it has been around on CC for a very long time. Again, I don't know that anyone with first hand experience with Meisner would be reading it. Thought I would point that thread out to you anyway.

Good luck!

Thanks Tisch Arts Rep for trying to help all these prospective students!

showbizkidz

Soozievt:

Re: CMU MT class of '09- according to my D they selected 4 MT girls from an audition pool of approx. 650+---all four accepted (incl. my D). However, one girl advised them in early May that she would not attend CMU since she was offered a recording contract. They did NOT fill her slot from the waitlist and so that is why they only have three girls in this year's Freshman class. I don't think any of the boys came off of the waitlist.

soozievt

Yes, that was my assumption regarding CMU last year. It is mind boggling, however, to have only 3 MT girls in the class. While it felt like an accomplishment when my D made the priority waitlist, I started wondering if it was worth applying and the money to travel there because it was a VERY LONG shot, the way the numbers turned out last year for girls at CMU.

Your D REALLY achieved when getting one of those four slots at CMU and must be extremely talented. I bet we hear more about her in the coming years!

theatermom

Tisch Arts Rep - You wrote above:

"For CAP21's 2009 class, 75-80 students were admitted and it is true to my knowledge that 79 or 80 students accepted [though I might be wrong!]. That does mean that there was no melt, which does say a lot about our programs. For other studios, there was little melt as well. As said before, I do not ever have factual statistics for admits/accepts."

I am sure everyone here appreciates your taking the time to respond to the many questions raised, but I don't understand what you mean by the above answer to the question about admits/accepts for CAP. First you say that X number of students WERE admitted and TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE 79 or 80 accepted, but than say you have no factual statistics?

I think this is the kind of question for which only facts are meaningful and relevant. If Tisch chooses to not make those numbers available, it is certainly their right not to do so. But then let's not say "I know but I could be wrong....." It may (or may not) be misleading and doesn't really say anything about the program.

Thanks!

soozievt

I read Tisch-Arts-Rep to mean "to his knowledge" and he admitted he could be wrong and that he doesn't have factual statistics. So, it was clear to me that these are not facts but what he has heard, as others have mentioned. Therefore, one shouldn't take them as facts but like many other things mentioned on the forum....it is what one has heard but it has been qualified as not factual and may not be accurate even though that was his understanding.

Let's remember that Tisch Arts Rep is a STUDENT, not an official who works for Tisch. If I wanted the exact factual information, I would go to the source, an administrator or adcom from this university. Perhaps one will contribute here, I don't know. For now, we only have several people who have "heard" similar numbers of accepting about 80 students to yield 64 but 80 have matriculated. The details or facts are not known by any poster here in a way that can be confirmed. At least Tisch Arts Rep is admitting that it is just to his knowledge but he doesn't have factual statistics or admits/accepts. So, take it for what it is worth and for what he has said it represents. I read LOTS of "information" on CC about schools that is not absolutely correct. Unless I get it from the direct source, I have to know that is all it is. In this case, several have mentioned similar numbers. No poster who entered into this latest discussion actually works for NYU. It would be misleading if stated that it was a FACT. I think Tisch Arts Rep qualified it and I understood it was just what he was saying....something he has heard but can't prove.

Arthur Bartow

There seem to be further questions regarding the number of freshmen applicant students invited to study at NYU, Tisch Drama's CAP21 for musical theatre students. The controversy seems to center around one year (2004-05) when a larger than normal class was admitted to CAP. Recruitment is not an exact science. The number of students a school invites in order to make a certain number of admits varies from year to year. In the year of the large class the number invited to attend was based on the fact that the previous year (2003) CAP was underenrolled, meaning that fewer than anticipated accepted their invitation. So the number of invitations in 2004 was increased to take that into consideration. That particular fall of 2004 a LARGER number than usual accepted the invitation making for a larger incoming class than we anticipated. Thus, the following year we decreased the number of invitations. This kind of variance occurs from time to time in each of the eight primary studios in the Drama program. There is a certain complexity in accepting the correct number of students into eight different studios. It is difficult to hit the right number precisely for each one of them. There can be a spike in responses or a decrease in responses for a particular studio. There is no significance to any of this other than the Drama program aiming for a class of 64 students for CAP21.

DramaMomxx

How many students are in Stella Adler each year?

tisch_arts_rep

This information is from a current first-year student in Meisner Extension. JennyD, hope this helps you.

"This year's class started with 21 students in ME, but usually around 20 are accepted. [1 student who had dropped out earlier rejoined the class]. Classes are held at the studio itself, and first-year curriculum consists of:

Yoga twice a week
Voice/Diction [IPA] twice a week
Meisner acting 3 times a week
Movement [WIlliamson] twice a week
Clowning once a week
Stage combat [1st semester]
Voice/Singing [2nd semester]

That's most of the information that I gathered. Hope it's enough! If you would like to hear directly from a student, what I suggest is that you called the Office of Student Affairs and see if there's any way they can connect you with a current ME student - I'm not sure if they can but it's worth finding out.

In regards to CAP21, the numbers I got were from current CAP21 first-year students. 80 students were in the first-year training in Fall of 2005 [80 is the number that has been given to me by two different current CAP21 students]. IF the number of admitted students to the CAP21 program is 80 - then yes, that would imply there was no melt - that every single student admitted to the CAP21 program chose to accept it.

Again, I DO NOT have exact statistics on how many were accepted - and frankly, as Arthur B. [our very cool artistic director!] has stated, there are no "quotas". That is why when so many people ask for exact numbers on admit/accept rates they're not available.

theatremom, I did not mean to insinuate that these were my guesses. I always note in my posts that these are not 100% solid facts because I could be wrong. My main purpose here too is more for students who have questions about the program and training from A STUDENT'S perspective; I'm trying not to cross into admissions because obviously I have no say about that. Hopefully this clears everything up. Thanks soozievt for clarifying on my behalf.

ADLER #s. [this number given to me by a current Adler second-year] "there were bout 70 adlerites my firstyear."

theatredivasmom

Hello,

Interesting thread, indeed! My daughter is a sophomore at the Strasberg Studio and there were approximately 80 admitted last year when they were freshman. I'll sak her if she would be willing to post here about Strasberg. She is incredibly busy this week, getting ready for her audition for the mainstage production in Hair. I will ask her, if she doesn't think she will have time, I will post and share what she has told me about the studio and why she likes their approach and plans on continuing there her Junior year.

theatermom

Tisch arts rep -

I KNOW that you are a student and thus I did not ask you to provide information about these stats for CAP - Soozievt asked you to weigh in, not me.

I will repeat one last time that the reason I have pressed this issue is that a 100% rate of acceptance of offers of admission in a pool of 80 students, i.e a 0% melt would have to be a record in college admissions and I remain skeptical that it occurred at CAP last year. A 0% melt in a pool of four offers, such as Soozie referenced at CMU, is statisically not any where near as significant as a 0% melt in a pool of 80 would be. I'm not sure what the issue of "quotas" of any kind has to do with this discussion and I have never raised it or surmised that a quota system of any kind has been used by Tisch. It is clear from Mr Bartow's post that he does not wish to reveal how many students were actually OFFERED admission to CAP last year, and while I reiterate that I respect his right to not reveal this number, it is the ONLY number I have have been trying to ascertain all along. And yes, I understand that many programs alter the number of offers they make from year to year - to reflect and accommodate recent melt statistics - for example, I know for a fact that UM has altered this number every year for at least the past four years - but I do not know of any other program that keeps this number a secret or why they would want to. We all know that 80 students ACCEPTED offers to CAP - some because they applied ED and others as a choice after applying RD. That has never been the question.

I feel I've said all I need to about this issue and am ready to let it go as it is clear that no more factual information will be forthcoming.

Arthur Bartow

The question has been asked as to the number of students recruited this year for the Adler Studio in Tisch's Drama program. I repeat that the number recruited can vary each year and the goals for each studio vary depending upon the capacity of each studio. The goal is to place 70 students in Adler next Fall 2006. In order to meet this goal, 100 invitations have been sent out to applicants.

jasmom

I was wondering if the moderator might move the discussions re: upcoming production to the productions thread?

Roger_Dooley

Hi, I removed a few off-topic posts - let's leave this thread for "Questions for Tisch Arts Reps". If you want to discuss other issues, please start a new thread. Thanks.

CollegeMom

Jasmom, I took your suggestion and moved the discussion of an upcoming Tisch production to our existing thread on "NYU Productions."

homestretch

My daughter was accepted to Adler and is looking for a current adler student to ask questions of. Anyone have a contact?