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Old 09-19-2007, 10:29 PM   #31
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And why is that Kriti?
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:40 PM   #32
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Yes, you can start to learn music there, from Conservatory students (who are like professionals), and I think you get credits for it. If you appreciate music in any way, though, it's a GREAT place to be.

I'm only three weeks into classes, so I'm not sure if keeping a high GPA is hard. The classes are not a cakewalk, though. I don't think the students are competitive, it seems pretty laid back, like everyone wants to learn to better themselves, not to top other people. The classes are very work intensive, though.

Ajay, I am not a good person to ask for an unbiased response. I didn't even consider Colgate's acceptance, I'd already chosen Oberlin by the time it arrived.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:16 PM   #33
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I've had some experience with music as a non-conservatory student, so I can say some more about that. If you have never played an instrument before, you can definitely start learning here. If you are starting a brand new instrument or don't want credit, your option is to take lessons with a student for about $7 a lesson (you can get a list of students who can teach from one of the conservatory offices). If you have been playing an instrument you can audition to get lessons for credit, which means it's free, and you'll be placed with a student or professor.
Ensemble options are more limited for college students, but there are some mainly for college students.
And if you just want to play in a band there are lots of people around looking to start groups and just have fun playing together. Plus the concerts are great! If you just want to hear tons of different music genres the opportunity here is endless.

About the GPA, it depends a lot on the classes and how tough the professors grade you. There is a lot of work and the professors expect a lot from you, but the nature of the work for each class differs so it sort of depends on that. Papers are usually graded tough, but if you don't have to write a lot in a certain class, then your grade for that class may be higher compared to a writing-intensive one. Atleast in my experience, I think I've gotten the grade I've deserved - even if it wasn't an A, because I know that I'm still learning and figuring out how to write stronger papers. Of course you also have to put in the effort to do well and your grade usually reflects that.

I haven't experienced much competitiveness at all.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:45 PM   #34
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TheOneCurlyFry, would you,please, answer my question.
I am an intl full finaid applicant. Have decent ECs. Is Oberlin really offering a comparatively generous full aid for intls? Maybe another college choice is more suitable in my situation? The problem is, only 6 universities in US offer need-blind admission for intls...

thank you for info in advance. really needed.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:44 AM   #35
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Hello TheOneCurlyFRY ! This is TheWonder , I got some problems with my account so made new one. First of all sorry for misspell you name, second of all thanks for answering to my question it is so nice of you! I am so glad that Oberlin got great math dep. Also so excited about Muslim association, and they also have a Kosher-Halal eating co-op! You got great SAT scores congrats. I am so jealous. Are u int student? Do they student from Uzbekistan ? The reason why I am asking strange questions is because I really like Oberlin, and it is my dream school. I am planing for ED, what do u think ? I am very nervous! I want to know everything about admission. Is it true that they look not only at test scores but also you presonl. and talent?
Just one more question if it is alright, i do paint well and have some painting. Should I send they when I apply, even though i am planing to major on math and science ?
Thank you so much !!!
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:10 PM   #36
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No offence whatsoever, but Wonder, how good is your english or are you just efficiently typing?

Because if you talk with that kind of english in the application i think it will stint your chances : /

-Oh yeah, and TOCF, are there any international applicants you know of recieving full aid?
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:12 AM   #37
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Hey Lynchian, my English is ok i guess ??, my toelf is 100 ibt. I understand that my English is not great as yours or others, but I have been studying English for 6 years at public school. moreover I was typing that message on my phone,.... obviously I will not use that kind of language during app., but anyways thank you so much for advice any advise is helpful.
take care

Which is better
Brandeis University or Oberlin College?

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Old 10-07-2007, 12:49 PM   #38
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Neither is "better." They're both great schools, but quite different. The question you should be asking is which is the better fit for your interests and priorities.
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:39 PM   #39
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WonderOnly1, I'm obviously not TheOneCurlyFry, but I'm currently working on an Oberlin application, so I can try to answer some of your questions about admissions...

If Oberlin is your dream school, applying ED is a great choice. (That's what I'm doing, for the record ) One thing to think about, though, is that ED is binding, so if you need financial aid, it's best to apply regular decision so you can compare offers from other schools. I don't know much about financial aid for international students, but I've heard it's difficult to get, so it would be especially important for you to shop around for the best package.

Because Oberlin is small and is trying to build a unique community, they want to accept students who are interesting, passionate, and diverse - not just people with perfect grades and test scores. So in addition to your grades and test scores, they also want to see what kinds of things you do outside school, and they ask for essays and teacher recommendations so they can get an idea of who you really are as a person.

It's a great idea to send copies of some of your paintings, even if you want to major in math or the sciences; it shows that you're a well-rounded person with talent outside your major. You should check out the Common App arts supplement to see how to submit your artwork.

Good luck!
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:23 PM   #40
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Just some advice guys, don't worry about whether or not you can get into any given school- be concerned with whether or not a school is a good fit for you. Obviously being accepted is necessary, but being happy at the school is by far the most important thing to think about.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:07 PM   #41
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I'm sorry, I've been really freaking busy, Oberlin is so amazing. I haven't been checking here.

Yes, it's true they don't just look at your scores. Your scores are just a small portion of your application. Your essay is really important. All that quaere said is very true, and very well put. And yeah, I'm international - I only got to the US for college.

As far as I know, we don't have any students from Uzbekistan. We do have students from a lot of other places, though.

And yes, definitely send in art!

And Marika, Oberlin is VERY generous, even though they're not need blind. I get almost full tuition in fin-aid.

Please keep asking questions; I'll check as often as I can. I'm sorry again.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:37 AM   #42
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hi! dear TheOneCurlyFry ,I am greatly interested in Oberlin and i am a international student...just like u^-^So, i am wondering that how the art department is in oberlin. I know there is a gallery/art museum in oberlin with one of monet's painting.

And you mentioned that it's not appropriate to apply oberlin if you are expected to have finaid. But i am that kind of person who seek the full aid and really hope to get in...a dillema again.

i hope u could answere my question soon .thanks a lot
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:53 PM   #43
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first of all..i'm not the theonecurlyfry...
but for all of u who r internationals and are worried abt fin. aid. I've got good news..I know 7 internationals from this yr..(including myself and the fairy) who are on full (or almost full) aid....
and I was an ed applicant too
and according to my knowledge..if you are not happy with your financial aid package after being accepted in the early decision phase..then u can drop out and consider other colleges ..(but I'm not 100% sure about it..u could always ask them before applying though)
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:11 PM   #44
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I don't think I mentioned that Oberlin is bad for financial aid, I think Oberlin's pretty good with the fin aid. And the art department is pretty good, I'm not personally acquainted with it, but we have a truly excellent art museum.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:13 PM   #45
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What do people do for fun? Thanks.
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