AG Holder Stonewalling.....

ldmom06 · 05-07-2009, 09:41 AM

Congressman: AG Holder Stonewalling on Terrorists' Release

"The Obama administration is reportedly set to announce the release onto U.S. soil of at least some of the 17 Uighur detainees currently being held at Gitmo. All 17 are members or associates of the Eastern Turkistan Islamic Party (ETIP), a designated terrorist organization with ties to al Qaeda. The pending release of the detainees has caused widespread debate and concern.

According to Rep. Frank R. Wolf (R-VA), Attorney General Eric Holder is preventing members of Congress from receiving a full briefing on the Uighurs and the threat they may pose. 'I have asked for briefings from career employees at the FBI, CIA, and Department of Homeland Security – and have been told by each agency that the Attorney General will not allow them to meet with me,' Wolf told THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

The assessment cited by Wolf was completed by President Obama’s inter-agency review board, which is reexamining each of the Gitmo detainees’ cases. According to an account by Jed Babbin last month, the review board determined that the Uighurs were too dangerous to release in the United States, but the Obama administration is ignoring its own review board’s recommendation...."

"The administration is pushing forward with the release of some of the Uighurs as part of a quid pro quo with European nations. Releasing some of the Uighurs in the United States is seen as a good faith accommodation of European demands that the risk posed by these detainees be spread across nations...."

"The Obama administration was, according to several sources, prepared to announce the release of the Uighurs late last week...."

The Weekly Standard

zoosermom · 05-07-2009, 09:58 AM

Got a spare bedroom available ldmom?

ldmom06 · 05-07-2009, 10:15 AM

hmmmm zoos....maybe if no one else is going to keep an eye on them, I'd better huh? (In my spare time, when I'm not tracking gov't spending.

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zoosermom · 05-07-2009, 10:18 AM

well you need to put that aside and oil up your gun! (Or whatever you do to get it ready.)

I'm confident that trained jihadists would stand no chance against you. Besides, if not you then who? Because the government is much more interested in making a point than protecting Americans.

bulletandpima · 05-07-2009, 10:29 AM

It was just announced that VA may get the detainees, so I can understand why Wolf is fighting Obama, especially since the 10th district includes parts of PW, that was traditionally a republican stronghold. He also than has McLean which is one of the wealthiest towns in the US...avg home is close to a million. Not thinking they want the terrorists around them, especially since Powell and Cheney live there!

zoosermom · 05-07-2009, 10:31 AM

Well with Bullet nearby, I'm sure we'll all be safe!

Seriously, though, how is this a good idea? Why wasn't this tought out more carefully?

bulletandpima · 05-07-2009, 10:37 AM

I agree and I have tried to point out that the dems that voted to close Gitmo have no plan for the next phase, which is who will take them except Montana(that has not finished building the prison). Who is going to transport them? Who is going to pay for that cost? Who will pay for their legal bills? Do people realize that there are only select prisons that can take them because of the security level needed?

My rec. re-open Alcatraz, than again SF and Pelosi would be against it b/c they will lose tourism dollars!

tega · 05-07-2009, 01:29 PM

Why Virginia? Why not California (especially San Fran) or Illinois?

bulletandpima · 05-08-2009, 08:19 AM

Eric Cantor has now joined Wolf in this crusade to keep the detainees out of VA.

Quote:

Washington, DC) -- Local Republican leaders are concerned suspected terrorists from Guantanamo Bay could end up in Alexandria. Virginia Congressman Frank Wolf says if the detainees are not formally charged with a crime, they could be released and end up living in local neighborhoods. Congressman Wolf and other GOP leaders introduced the Keep Terrorists Out of America Act yesterday. Wolf says if the detainees are released, they should be monitored at all times. He's also written a letter to President Obama, asking him to declassify all intelligence regarding terror suspects coming to America

Here's part of the Act...still googling for more info, but right now I do support the act

Quote:

Governor & State Legislature Pre-Approval. The measure prohibits the Administration from transferring or releasing any terrorist detainees at Guantanamo Bay to any state without express approval from the state’s governor and legislature, and certifies to Congress that strict requirements have been met. For example, the Administration must certify to the respective governor and state legislature that the detainee does not pose a security risk to the United States. The certifications must be made 60 days before any transfer or release.

Presidential Certification Requirements. The measure prohibits the President from transferring or releasing a terrorist detainee into the United States unless he provides the following notification and certification to Congress regarding:

· The name of the detainee and transfer/release location in the United States.

· The release/transfer would not negatively impact continued prosecution of the detainee.

· The release/transfer would not negatively impact continued detention of the detainee.

· The ability of federal judges to release detainees into the United States.

To be fair and balanced here is a link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_198939.html

I get the point of keepin arsonist out of America, but the terrorist is not a citizen of our country.

Hunt · 05-08-2009, 08:55 AM

Here's a different take on these detainees:
Mr. Obama Should Free the Uighurs - washingtonpost.com
If they're terrorists at all, which is apparently not proven, they're anti-Chinese terrorists. I suppose the Washington Post may be a wee bit biased, unlike, ahem, the Weekly Standard.

bulletandpima · 05-08-2009, 09:22 AM

So we should just let them in?

ldmom06 · 05-08-2009, 08:09 PM

I would say...let them in. Send them to live near the person who wrote that WaPo editorial. Ooops...seems that person didn't sign their name.

The argument is these terrorists can't go back to China because they will likely be harmed, therefore they need asylum. As was astutely pointed out in the comments section of the WaPo article, a person cannot legally be granted asylum in the US if they are a member of an terrorist organization recognized by the US State Department, as were these Chinese. For Obama to admit these men, he would be required to violate American law. But then....what's a little American law to a man like Obama. Minor details, minor details.

Hunt · 05-09-2009, 11:42 AM

I'm more concerned about the minor detail that the prior administration didn't care about the Constitution. I seem to recall something about people being considered innocent until proven guilty.

DocT · 05-09-2009, 11:53 AM

"I'm more concerned about the minor detail that the prior administration didn't care about the Constitution. I seem to recall something about people being considered innocent until proven guilty. "

I learn something new everyday by coming to cc. Until now, I didn't realize that people who are not US citizens were covered by our constitution.

bulletandpima · 05-10-2009, 11:32 AM

Well I guess we need to make sure an amendment is added quickly so the terrorists have the same rights as a US citizen. That's that whole touchy feely thing, we need to give them more hugs b/c than they won't want to blow up innocent people. Silly me!