catahoula

momofsophie (wherever you and your Rolling Stone link disappeared to), thanks.

Some financial guys are going to get well, along with the Feds, true indeed.

zotan

Yes. See my previous reply on Page 28.

If that isn't a consensus, then what the hell is?

zotan

I just wonder what you all are going to tell your kids and grandkids once Earth's climate has completely destabilized by the second half of this century. Will you finally be able to admit that you were wrong and prevented action at one of the last opportunities where action could have had an impact, or will you still tout the party line?

999 doctors are telling you that you're kid has a deadly disease. They have decades of scientific research. One says he is a fine, and it's a hoax by those doctors to gain more control over your life. He has no evidence. Better go with the lone doctor right? His words make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside!

mini

Just in case folks don't follow the link:

Here is a list of organizations that accept anthropogenic global warming as real and scientifically well-supported:

* NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS): http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/gwdebate/
* National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA): Global Warming Frequently Asked Questions
* Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC): Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis
* National Academy of Sciences (NAS): Nat'l Academies Press Collection: Global Warming/Climate Change Collection
* State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC) - http://www.socc.ca/permafrost/permafrost_future_e.cfm
* Environmental Protection Agency (EPA): Climate Change | U.S. EPA
* The Royal Society of the UK (RS) - http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/page.asp?id=3135
* American Geophysical Union (AGU): http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/policy/cl..._position.html
* American Meteorological Society (AMS): Climate Change Research: Issues for the Atmospheric and Related Sciences Adopted by the AMS Council 9 February 2003
* American Institute of Physics (AIP): Statement on Human Impacts on Climate Change - American Institute of Physics
* National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR): How Does Climate Change?
* American Meteorological Society (AMS): Joint Academies' Statement
* Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS): Climate Change Policy

Every major scientific institution dealing with climate, ocean, and/or atmosphere agrees that the climate is warming rapidly and the primary cause is human CO2 emissions. In addition to that list, see also this joint statement (PDF) that specifically and unequivocally endorses the work and conclusions of the IPCC Third Assessment report. The statement was issued by:

* Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil)
* Royal Society of Canada
* Chinese Academy of Sciences
* Academie des Sciences (France)
* Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)
* Indian National Science Academy
* Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)
* Science Council of Japan
* Russian Academy of Sciences
* Royal Society (United Kingdom)
* National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)

You can also read this statement [PDF], which includes all the above signatories plus the following:

* Australian Academy of Sciences
* Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
* Caribbean Academy of Sciences
* Indonesian Academy of Sciences
* Royal Irish Academy
* Academy of Sciences Malaysia
* Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
* Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

But if scientists are too liberal and politicians too unreliable, perhaps you find the opinion of key industry representatives more convincing:

* BP, the largest oil company in the UK and one of the largest in the world, has this opinion:

There is an increasing consensus that climate change is linked to the consumption of carbon based fuels and that action is required now to avoid further increases in carbon emissions as the global demand for energy increases.

* Shell Oil (yes, as in oil, the fossil fuel) says:

Shell shares the widespread concern that the emission of greenhouse gases from human activities is leading to changes in the global climate.

* Eighteen CEOs of Canada's largest corporations had this to say in an open letter to the Prime Minister of Canada:

Our organizations accept that a strong response is required to the strengthening evidence in the scientific assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). We accept the IPCC consensus that climate change raises the risk of severe consequences for human health and security and the environment. We note that Canada is particularly vulnerable to the impacts of climate change.

I'd still rather date Catahoula. He's cuter than all but one of the above.

catahoula

And this comes from their endowments, zotan? Really?

catahoula

Like I said...

How's the wife feel about this, btw?

zotan

Funny how you ignore my post and Mini's.

mini

"How's the wife feel about this, btw?"

My wife fully knows that, since I'm not an alpha male, I'm not likely to act on it. But you could be at least decent enough to send me a picture.

Posed on an icefloe would be just fine.

catahoula

She's understanding, you mean.

That's just hilarious... demeaning I know, but hilarious all the same, mini.

littlegreenmom

Cat,

I had no idea. There has to be a story here. Do tell.

mini

"That's just hilarious... demeaning I know, but hilarious all the same, mini."

Well, when I get the pic, I promise to send it on to her. Then maybe we'll see where the consensus lies. But, be forewarned: you might be spending an awful lot of time on that there icefloe.

Dontcha want to know whom, out of the list, you are less cute than?

catahoula

You noticed mini's got a bee in his pocket... bonnet, I mean, lgm?

littlegreenmom

I just want to know how mini knows you are cute. I mean, it somehow doesn't seem fair. Methinks you are holding out on the rest of us, Cat!

catahoula

And isn't shy about talking about it, lol.

catahoula

You seem to be a nice girl, lgm (though that begs the question of what you're doing here: I'll send you a pic.

You'll just have to keep looking, mini. Sorry.